Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Data repair necessary every back up?
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortcremote
Gonna jump...gonna jump..
Registered: April 16, 2009
United Kingdom Posts: 141
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I've noticed over the past several months that I have to run the repair doobrie every time before I can do a back up of my collection.  Is this normal? Has everything become more fragile in recent months or is it due to collections size (c. 3000+)???  New computer, latest release and all that.

Not a problem, it works, just takes time is all.

Anyone else noticed?
Gonna jump...gonna jump...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
Resistance is Futile!
Registered: October 30, 2008
United States Posts: 1,249
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
On the backup screen (File -> Backup database...") uncheck the box next to "Check database files before backup"
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.

He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortcremote
Gonna jump...gonna jump..
Registered: April 16, 2009
United Kingdom Posts: 141
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Thanks, can do, but there again, if "checking" finds faults that need repair every time... why?  Not "checking" for faults (by un-ticking the box as you suggest) doesn't make the "faults" disappear does it?

Or are there no faults in reality?

Is this Kansas?
Gonna jump...gonna jump...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,850
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting tcremote:
Quote:
Is this Kansas?

It doesn't look like Kansas.

---------------
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree... been finding that too ......
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
Missed again!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,293
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I do recall seeing a post which indicated that the fault checking is 'over zealous' and will sometimes indicate there is a fualt when there isn't one.

Then again it's possible there are regularly small faults in the data of unlooked at profiles that go by unnoticed (or have no noticible effect) and just get 'sorted out' when there's a big fault that you *do* notice and run a Database Repair abd the checker finds these.

I doubt it means there are more faults than there used to be, at worst it's that the program now can check for them so it is being brought to our attention.
It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,623
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I wonder if there is actually a separate fault check? I kind of suspect that doing a repair is in fact the fault checking. Does the repair actually say that anything was fixed?
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortcremote
Gonna jump...gonna jump..
Registered: April 16, 2009
United Kingdom Posts: 141
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Interesting, however, my main point was that you can't (seemingly any more) run the back up without running the repair first. Therefore it's not elective! Takes forever with a large collection.
Gonna jump...gonna jump...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I am still able to run a backup without repairing my database first, so I wonder what is causing this behaviour on your system.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,623
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
I am still able to run a backup without repairing my database first, so I wonder what is causing this behaviour on your system.

Same here.
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortcremote
Gonna jump...gonna jump..
Registered: April 16, 2009
United Kingdom Posts: 141
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
No idea, I've typically added 6 - 12 new additions between back ups. Maybe 50/50 adapted previous (usually US) postings/start from scratch (for those UK/European movies we get before US).  Plus weekly updates from Invelos of course. Anything unusual in that?
Gonna jump...gonna jump...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,850
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting tcremote:
Quote:
Interesting, however, my main point was that you can't (seemingly any more) run the back up without running the repair first. Therefore it's not elective! Takes forever with a large collection.

I backup without running a repair almost every day.

---------------
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
Missed again!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,293
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting tcremote:
Quote:
Interesting, however, my main point was that you can't (seemingly any more) run the back up without running the repair first. Therefore it's not elective!


Sorry if this is a stupid question but you have unticked the "Check Database Files Before Backup" option on the first 'Backup' window as per Blair's post? This perfectly happily runs the backup without repair for me... as we've been discussing it may be the checking finds faults which either aren't faults or are technically faults but they wouldn't affect anything even if un-repaired.
It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting scotthm:
Quote:
Quoting tcremote:
Quote:
Interesting, however, my main point was that you can't (seemingly any more) run the back up without running the repair first. Therefore it's not elective! Takes forever with a large collection.

I backup without running a repair almost every day.

---------------

You can run backup everyday without the repair notice coming up IF you unchecked the box first ..

this forum  post is commenting on the fact that if that box is ticked it will most always come back that it failed to backup due to the database being "problematic" and needs to be repaired/ fixed..
Yesterday I forgot to uncheck,, then I did the database fix . then two hours later after some changes and adds  it had to be fixed again ...  therefore  this  'new' add on  is problematic for quite a few of us or not .. ? that is what tcremote was posting about .
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next