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DvdProfiler updating.. what?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorParsec
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When you go to add a new profile to DvdProfiler it often first goes into an updating mode and downloads 10 files for around 24-25mb total.

What is it actually updating here?

I had a look in the main program directory and also it's stuff in MY Documents but didn't see any files dated the same date. Which is what I would expect had it updated some database section or whatever. So what is it doing?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
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In my experience, it should have only done that once (that many files that large) when you update the database for the first time (new version of the software or loading from an older-version's local backups.)  If it continues to do the same thing again and again with files that large, there is a problem somewhere.

The files are the "Online Profile List" which is the same list downloaded if you were to instead click "Refresh Updated Profiles" (for comparing your collection against the data in the database and decide what parts you may want to accept or decline.)

It also downloads the full list of movies in the database under the regions you choose so that you can type in a name (or UPC) under Add "By Title" (or "By UPC) and it display if the movie already exists in the database.
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It also downloads the full list of movies in the database under the regions you choose so that you can type in a name (or UPC) under Add "By Title" (or "By UPC) and it display if the movie already exists in the database.


Ok, it's most probably doing this bit as I think I have a number of regions selected somewhere.....
Anyway, so where does the updated file(s) go? I would have thought it's storing them somewhere because if I close DvdProfiler and say start it up again sometime later and go to add, it doesn't do it again. I've looked everywhere, even in Windows temp directories, but can't find what it downloaded. What did it do with it.

Also shouldn't it only do this update for new stuff, I would assume it might download this stuff and store it somewhere and then merely update the bits of that at a future time (it's always 10 files), not just download the same thing again.

Confusing...
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Anyway, so where does the updated file(s) go?

*shrug* I've never delved deeply enough to know for sure, but the obvious places would be in My Documents and Temporary Files, of course, and it's possible that the files are deleted upon closing Profiler which leads to your next statement:

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I would have thought it's storing them somewhere because if I close DvdProfiler and say start it up again sometime later and go to add, it doesn't do it again.

The database is only updated once a day. The easy assumption here is that when the files are downloaded, that date is marked in the current database, and when you click the button a second time, it reads the date and simply skips the step the next time. Likewise, I just updated my database, and if I click the button nothing happens, but if I loaded my backup from last month and clicked it, then the files would load again starting with updates from last month.

Keep in mind that Ken (owner/programmer) has never spelled these things out before. I'm basing most of my answers on general knowledge and experience.


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Also shouldn't it only do this update for new stuff, I would assume it might download this stuff and store it somewhere and then merely update the bits of that at a future time (it's always 10 files), not just download the same thing again.

And here we have a problem. You are correct that it should only download new stuff (which can usually be a closer to 200k if you haven't updated in a week or two and a lot of changed were made. It should only do the 10-file download once: the first time the updater is run on a new install.

So now, let's see if we can figure that out. First try this. Go to:

Tools -> Options -> Utilities -> Repair Profile Database

See if that stops the files (again, it should now download a single file much faster assuming it "jump started" to the current date and isn't forcing the full download one more time.)
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I've repaired the database before, but just repaired it again anyway. Of course it's not re-downloading those files again so I'll see what happens tomorrow and let you know.

(See if it still downloads 10 files for a total around 25mb)
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AIUI - and assuming I get the question! - the two files are OnlineList.dod and OnlineListSel.dod

These are the files that if you delete them it does a full download when you do an Refresh Updated Profiles instead of the 'small download' that it normally does/should do just to download the changes. I think OnlineList is the whole things and OnlineListSel is the one for the regions you have selected (I have all so they are identical).

They are in (for me on XP):

C:\Documents and Settings\<my name>\Local Settings\Application Data\DVD Profiler
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They are in (for me on XP):

C:\Documents and Settings\<my name>\Local Settings\Application Data\DVD Profiler


For Vista and Win7 this would be:

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Local\DVDProfiler

AppData by default is a hidden directory, so you'd first have to make it "visible" before accessing it.
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Ok, so found those files (Win 7 here), but they are both like 36Mb in size. This doesn't correlate to the approx 25Mb it downloads nearly every new day when I go to add a new dvd. But those files have the right timestamp on them for when it occurred.

So now I just got to figure out why.
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This is really strange. If I go to the menus DVD --> Add to Collection on a new day the app just downloads a small profile list file.
However if I use the shortcut keys Ctrl + Ins that's when it decides to download those 10 complete files that add up to around 25Mb.

This is very hard to figure out as this refresh is possible (either way) once per day.

Anyone else using the shortcut keys?
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Don't use the shortcut keys myself, but have just tried it and get the same 10 file download you do.

Guess I'll stick to the normal way of just clicking add dvd and get the smaller download.
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This is really strange. If I go to the menus DVD --> Add to Collection on a new day the app just downloads a small profile list file.
However if I use the shortcut keys Ctrl + Ins that's when it decides to download those 10 complete files that add up to around 25Mb.

This is very hard to figure out as this refresh is possible (either way) once per day.

Anyone else using the shortcut keys?


If you press CTRL while clicking on Refresh Online Profile List, the program will force a download of the complete list, whether or not you already refreshed the list or added profiles that day. It is a feature of the program that allows replacing a corrupted list.
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Well that seems a little strange. While I can understand the idea of using Ctrl to force a complete refresh, seems silly to list it as the shortcut key for the menu item.

At least I know why it's happening now though.
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