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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi everybody, I'd really like to know what the community thinks about this two "problems" I have. 1. As probably many of you know already in Germany we have a problem with the so called flip-covers. Here I have this one:  against this one:  In this case the problem is that the image above is no valid DVD-cover (rating-logo and UPC/EAN missing). The existing images for this profile show a mixture of both images. Is this OK or should we use the matching front for the back (which in this case would mean the more ugly one)? 2. With this very same DVD came a bonus-DVD which includes nothing else but the pilots of 4 TV-shows. How should I handle this? Three options come to my mind (I'm sure there are more but I've caught a cold recently, so my thinking is a bit slow at the moment): 1. Promo DVD: Not to be entered at all 2. Bonus DVD (A): Just to be entered in the Discs-section. 3. Bonus DVD (B): Enter according to "Bonus-Film"-rule Any input is very much appreciated. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken's comment about such flip-covers here: Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
The rules don't specifically cover this. We generally encourage submission of covers without stickers, and although these aren't stickers, they serve a similar purpose.
So, as long as the flip cover otherwise matches the front, I don't see a problem submitting it. Take from that what you will. Personally, I prefer the "clean" images - anything that's missing from them will be listed right besides the images in DVD Profiler, so that doesn't pose a problem for me. As for the disc with 4 TV-show pilots: did it come in it's own packaging? I did get a number of these over the years, but usually they came in their own packaging (mostly an envelope). If it's packaged separately, and if there's no mention of it on the cover of the 'The Boat That Rocked'-DVD, then I wouldn't consider it part of that film's bonus material, and wouldn't list it as such. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | [sorry - double post] | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
As for the disc with 4 TV-show pilots: did it come in it's own packaging? No, the KeepCase is a Dual case (one on the front- the other on the back lid). On the shrinkwrap was a sticker telling about the "bonusmaterial", but no further notice of this on the package itself. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree completely with T!M on the cover issue, feel free to use the ones you want, Ken supports this too, we just have to avoid a constant ping-pong battle  I would treat the Tv episodes in the Bonus Section and list them under "Other Features". cheers Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Personally, I prefer the "clean" images - anything that's missing from them will be listed right besides the images in DVD Profiler, so that doesn't pose a problem for me. I may locally use the clean ones but probably submit the 'default' one that is legally required to be shown on the shelf as we tend to use that as our guide for other things (eg. what goes in the title field? The title of the DVD you see on the shelf). If you DO decide to go with the clean covers I would suggest you make Ken's coments and this info VERY clear in the contribution notes as if I didn't know this for (say) a UK title I would almost definitely 'No' vote with "cannot be correctl UK cover as it does not display Rating info as required by Law" | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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As for the disc with 4 TV-show pilots: did it come in it's own packaging?
No, the KeepCase is a Dual case (one on the front- the other on the back lid).
On the shrinkwrap was a sticker telling about the "bonusmaterial", but no further notice of this on the package itself. Well, if it's in the same keepcase, it's pretty hard to ignore. I'd add it as a "Bonus Materials"-disc in the discs-section, mention what it is in the "other features" field, and not profile the actual contents any further. But I can see how different people will have different opinions about this... |
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| Registered: February 10, 2008 | | Posts: 244 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd keep the clean front cover and the back cover with EAN... and I'd add the Bonus-DVD like T!M described... |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
I may locally use the clean ones but probably submit the 'default' one that is legally required to be shown on the shelf ...
Among people who will download this profile, how many will prefer for their local the clean ones ? I bet that will be the very large majority. Rules have been made to avoid pingponging, but normal users prefer to find correct or usable data in the online database. To send to the online stuff that will be changed by most of users for their local is just waste of time. The problem is to wonder whether online data are there to be useful for those who will download them or for the ego of the contributor (or to avoid nightmares for the dozen of guys scared by pingponging)  | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | BTW, I'm one of those few guys who prefer the original cover with the big rating logo over the reversible side without the logo. Although I agree that the logo could be smaller. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
BTW, I'm one of those few guys who prefer the original cover with the big rating logo over the reversible side without the logo. Heretic!  | | | Karsten
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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BTW, I'm one of those few guys who prefer the original cover with the big rating logo over the reversible side without the logo.
Heretic!
I also prefer them solely because that's the side that has to be displayed in shops. If it were the they had to be double sided with the logo on one side & no logo on the other I may say otherwise. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | First to the cover question: I like the mixture of Front without Logo, back with EAN/UPC. (even if the Rating detail gets (most times) lost at this way doing it) But i think the UPC is more essential than the Rating.
To the second question: If i saw right, the Bonus DVD isn't mentioned on the cover, so i think it's a (perhaps temporarily) Promo disc, so not entering. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see no harm in creating a 'Bonus Feature Film' profile for the extra disc. Those that purchased that version will be happy to have it, those that didn't, don't have to download it and everybody should be happy. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with our alien friend here. |
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