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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | I tend to enter new profiles and submit them for future releases I intend to buy. However, I was wondering what region code you guys attribute in such cases?
Me? I always put the region code of the locality until hard proof shows up that a disc is region free.
I have noticed some future releases have a profile that is region free in the database, and in some cases, it seems rather doubtful.
Is there a general rule concerning such submissions? | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | I hardly create pre-release profiles, but locality region only seems to be the logical thing to do.
On the other hand, if you do not enter anything in that field, the default is region free I believe. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | When I do pre-releases I always leave it blank. Then just update it when I can put the accurate info once I get the disc. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
I tend to enter new profiles and submit them for future releases I intend to buy. However, I was wondering what region code you guys attribute in such cases?
Me? I always put the region code of the locality until hard proof shows up that a disc is region free. Same here as it seems safest. Leaving it blank for 'unknown' seems the only other option but since leaving it blank creates a Region Free profile, and often updates after release can miss out this information, I don't think that's very safe for those who may trust the info after release. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
Me? I always put the region code of the locality until hard proof shows up that a disc is region free.  Most people probably just leave it blank.Basically "not touching" the field. I would think it may be a good idea to make it a rule that the locality's region should be chosen, making it necessary later to provided contribution notes if it is changed. It's the safest way against profiles wrongly labeled All Region. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, the reason why I ask this, is because some users, including myself, might use pre-release region code info to decide whether or not to order a certain release.
Imagine I have a Region B BD player and I see pre-release info for a US blu-ray, saying it's region-free. Trusting that info I order the disc and it turns out it's only region A.
In that regard I thought it would be best to standard use the region code of the locality, until proven region-free. | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
Yeah, the reason why I ask this, is because some users, including myself, might use pre-release region code info to decide whether or not to order a certain release.
Imagine I have a Region B BD player and I see pre-release info for a US blu-ray, saying it's region-free. Trusting that info I order the disc and it turns out it's only region A.
In that regard I thought it would be best to standard use the region code of the locality, until proven region-free. I also add a lot of Blu-ray pre-release profile to the database, and I'm very much against using a standard rule regarding region codes. The simple reason for this is the different (but well known) attitude of the release companies. For example, you can be 100% sure that a Warner or a Universal release will not be region coded. So why would I add a region code here? On the other hand, for a Twentieth Century Fox or Disney release it is highly likely that the disc will be coded. So I suggest we as profile creators use our knowledge and common sense - not everything has to be dealt with by a rule.  | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,196 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would never trust pre-release info when ordering anything regardless what the profile says. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree.. I would never base a purchase on a pre-release profile. My line of thinking is if I do not know for sure from the announcement/press release I leave it blank till it is mentioned or the release comes out.
One of my biggest pet peeves is when people automatically mark a pre-release TV Series as having scene selection... when per our rules (menu option for scenes within the episodes) less then half of what is released actually has it. At least in my experience in the hundreds of TV releases I have. Then we just have bad data until it can show that it isn't there.
I personally think when it comes to pre-releases it is much better to leave a field blank until we have the correct info to put in. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | I note that if I create a profile from scratch, filling in title and region, and then go on to edit the title, the region is reset to "no selection".
So unless a contributor pays attention and sets the region again, new profiles may default to "region free" anyway. However, leaving it like that shows up future releases in regions that are most likely not appropriate. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
Yeah, the reason why I ask this, is because some users, including myself, might use pre-release region code info to decide whether or not to order a certain release.
Imagine I have a Region B BD player and I see pre-release info for a US blu-ray, saying it's region-free. Trusting that info I order the disc and it turns out it's only region A.
In that regard I thought it would be best to standard use the region code of the locality, until proven region-free. For region info on US Blu-Ray discs, go to www.axelmusic.com. They perform actual tests on all titles, and provide predictive info based on statistics per studio. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I agree.. I would never base a purchase on a pre-release profile. My line of thinking is if I do not know for sure from the announcement/press release I leave it blank till it is mentioned or the release comes out.
One of my biggest pet peeves is when people automatically mark a pre-release TV Series as having scene selection... when per our rules (menu option for scenes within the episodes) less then half of what is released actually has it. At least in my experience in the hundreds of TV releases I have. Then we just have bad data until it can show that it isn't there.
I personally think when it comes to pre-releases it is much better to leave a field blank until we have the correct info to put in. I include scene selection in a pre-release only if it was confirmed by an official source (usually a press release or on the official website). Otherwise, I wait to add features until I have the disc in hand. | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not that I often do pre-release profiles but I would probably leave them blank unless I'm reasonably sure of them.
For example, the vast majority of Fox Blu-ray titles are region coded so I would more than likely submit one for those. Inversely, Universal, Paramount & Warner don't code their discs so I wouldn't submit a code for those. Disney & Sony can vary from title to title but from experience a good rule to follow is that new titles are coded but catalogue films aren't.
DVDs on the other hand I might be tempted to fill in the locality code as for some reason most studios do still put DVD codes on them even if the Blu-ray is region free. |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I agree.. I would never base a purchase on a pre-release profile. My line of thinking is if I do not know for sure from the announcement/press release I leave it blank till it is mentioned or the release comes out. I wouldn't either... but when it comes to region coding the danger is that it will be released and nobody does an update for ages or the person doing the firrst 'post release' update doesn't check/update region coding so you're left with a profile that's quite detailed and 6 months post-release with the danger of being trusted and then the title ordered by someone who can't play it. Quote:
One of my biggest pet peeves is when people automatically mark a pre-release TV Series as having scene selection... FWIW that's one of my pet peeves too! | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Having a value "unknown", as was suggested recently in the Features Request forum, would be the ideal solution. |
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| | Posted: | | | | I would use the region code of the locality it's released in. We know that the disc will be playable in that region since it's released there but we can't know for sure that it will be playable in other regions. To avoid the problems Voltaire describes, my opinion is that if the region is different than for the default in the locality (which will prolly be printed on the cover), we can change it after verifying it from the disc. | | | 
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