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Two different ratings on Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives (UK) release
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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This month I'm auditing my complete DVD collection in DVD Profiler. When I was updating Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives (UK - UPC 5014437805430) I stumbled upon a problem. The DVD I own is rated 15 on the cover and on the DVD, but the cover scans in the online database are rated 18. The question is which one is a so called re-release? And should we enter the rating of the original release or the one with the highest rating?

The DVD was released on April the 4th 2002, I bought the DVD at the end of September the same year (2002). The contributor of the existing scans bought the DVD in 2003, but the copyright notice on his cover says 2002 as well.

The only other source is the BBFC and the DVD is rated 15 on the BBFC website (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/c2fb077ba3f9b33980256b4f002da32c/e665765d7253f5bb80256b9d002328ce?OpenDocument)
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It's not unheard of that there's a misprint on the cover and/or disc. It's quite possible that it was released with an 18 certificate by accident as that was it's original rating when released in the 80's & then corrected soon after.

As both have a 2002 copyright, I would say that we'll have to stick with the existing information.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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There's really no "solution" for the online database; you could make a case for either option and see what the voters think. If I were you, I'd certainly go with the "15"-rating locally, not only because that's what's on your cover, but also because it's confirmed as the correct one by the BBFC-website.
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Quoting T!M:
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There's really no "solution" for the online database; you could make a case for either option and see what the voters think. If I were you, I'd certainly go with the "15"-rating locally, not only because that's what's on your cover, but also because it's confirmed as the correct one by the BBFC-website.


Fully agree with T!M here; it was passed 18 for the cinema and video but when re-submitted for the DVD it looks like it got an 15 unexpectedly.
I dare say they'd already printed up lots of covers with an 18 (I note that the BBFC clearance at 15 was about a week after the DVD release!) so this is probably the original release or maybe even it was released the same day with some marked one way, some the other.

FWIW when a disc/release has been mis-marked in the past I've discussed this and the general consensus was "go with the cover" even if we know it is wrong (probably to stop multiple people trying to "correct" it over the coming years!). However not all agreed and in this case it's certainly worth submitting a new scan, explaining this cover agrees with the BBFC DVD rating and see what the Voters say... but don't get upset if someone who bought on Day of release with the 18 cover feels they must No vote... the Screeners still may agree with you if your Notes make things clear.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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Thanks all for your replies. I will contribute with a full explanation. I hope there won't be a 50/50, because then we'll get a ping pong effect
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin Coed
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I'm 99% confident - and I don't have my disc to hand - that although my cover has the 18 logo, the disc itself says 15. It looks to me like the covers were printed up ahead of time with the assumption that it would be an 18 and that Paramount were caught off guard when it was certified at 15. They then released it with the already printed covers and then changed them for the next pressing. Thus making the cover with a 15 rating a re-release cover.

Technically what Paramount did is illegal under the VRA but they probably thought nobody would complain about a film being released with a higher classification than it actually should be.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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That seems very likely indeed. I will re-submit, but without the cover scans and rating change. Votes are 1 Yes and 4 No, so I will keep mine local.
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