Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Technical Support Page: 1  Previous   Next
Image Database Bloat
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
Registered March 22, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 609
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
This is just something to think about Ken. Perhaps a change in the way the program handles image files.

Right now, with the utilities, you can clean up any images that are left over from DVD's you don't have in your collection. But it doesn't do anything with the images that are overwritten, that I see.

I was looking through the image folder today looking for the cover to a certain DVD so that I could apply it to the child profiles I had made (it was Cosmos, btw), and I found out something peculiar.

In the image folder, there are multiple copies of image covers for the same title. in my case, there are sometimes four front cover images for a single title. When I look at them closely, I see that they are covers that are not being used anymore, because newer and better ones had been submitted and I had downloaded them. So even though DVDP replaces covers in the individual profiles, the program doesn't allow for the old cover to be deleted. I didn't do a really close count, but I know there were over 50 images that are not in use, that are just taking up space on my hard drive.

(I suppose I could just delete all the image files and re-download them, but - unless I took precautions - I would lose all my custom covers.)

I would think there should be a way for the program to automatically delete a cover image once it has been replaced, thus saving space. How about it?

And in the same sort of vein.... is there a better naming convention for the covers? perhaps by the profile title? "Bambiback.jpg", "Bambifront.jpg"?

Thirdly, when there are child profiles of a box set/television set, and there are no individual covers scans, current rules state to use the covers from the box. Is there a way to just have the profiles point to the same single image file, instead of having a separate file for each child? Again, it would save space.

Just my thoughts, and ideas to make this already great program even better.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I don't understand - how can there be more than 1 version of each cover?

I thought the naming convention was such that there couldn't be - i.e. EAN code with a b or f and location code.

What were the previous versions named?
Paul
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
Registered March 22, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 609
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I don't know, but there are more than one. There are multiple copies of some covers.

I currently have 861 titles in my collection. But the images folder shows 3386 image files (148 megs of space). That does not include the Thumbnails folder. However, the same thing happens in that folder as well. Duplicates.

Take LA Story. I have 012236187875b, and 012236187875f  which are both front covers. I can only assume that was from when the title was on my wish list, and the front cover was used for both sides.

What's funny is that I have the back covers, can see them in the program, but can't find the files. for them.

That may be where the problem lies. I have more fronts than backs. On all the multiples, the UPC/EAN are the same, but then b or f (which I know means back and front).

But there should be a way for the program to take care of this, and there should not be a huge disparity in the number of covers vs. number of actual titles. If I've got 500 titles, and covers for each, I should have 1000 image files.

In this program I think it's a bug. If it was Windows, I'd call it a "feature."   
 Last edited: by Kevin
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
Missed again!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,293
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Not that I'm sure how the numbering can make this possible but anyway... have you tried:

Tools -> Options -> Utilities -> Clean Images Directory

?
It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
Registered March 22, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 609
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
If you read the second paragraph in my original post, I did that already. I do that once a month at least.

I might have figured out the duplicate images, but i still have 4 times as many image files than i have titles.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,202
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have fewer images than I do profiles so I don't know what your issue might be.

731 profiles
1460 images
1460 thumbnails
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,917
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Unrelated and related alike, you could edit the parent profile and copy the cover from there and then paste it into the child profiles.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
Registered March 22, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 609
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I"m wondering if it has something to do with being a backup/switch from the 2.4 database.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have 971 profiles and 1877 image files. Seems ok to me.

One thing I didn't do is use the same image directory with both programs.
I restored the database into v3 which created a new cover directory.

Don't forget all the EAN's changed from v2 to v3. So all the old images would have had the wrong name..
Paul
 Last edited: by pauls42
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin
Registered March 22, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 609
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Huh. Well, I went and manually deleted every image that was in the DVDP folders. Then I restored a backup from my other computer. Now everything looks okay.

Don't know what was going on, but it was hinky somehow.

Oh well, back to the regular program of whining and complaining.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
Registered: Dec. 2, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
United States Posts: 1,339
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Voltaire53:
Quote:
Not that I'm sure how the numbering can make this possible but anyway... have you tried:

Tools -> Options -> Utilities -> Clean Images Directory

?



never knew that existed - good eye.
-JoN
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
Registered: May 29, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 3,475
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Voltaire53:
Quote:
Not that I'm sure how the numbering can make this possible but anyway... have you tried:

Tools -> Options -> Utilities -> Clean Images Directory

?


Thank you!
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
Missed again!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,293
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Np worries; I noticed on 2.x that if I deleted a title from my Db and said "yes, delete the images" when it asked, it never did (or so it seemed to me) so that's when I discovered the Clean Images which did the trick.

Glad to be of help to anyone who hasn't found that one until now!
It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Technical Support Page: 1  Previous   Next