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True Grit....Your Going To Need It
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Like you judged my intelligence on my spelling.

You are presuming, at no point did I give you an evaluation of my perception of your intelligence. For all I know, English is your second language, or third.


Well my apologises then. Cause i have Aspergers i get very angry if i think someone is questioning my intelligence.
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No you should just watch them with subtitles.

What I should do is watch what I want to watch the way I want to watch it...which is what everybody should do.
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Like you judged my intelligence on my spelling.

You are presuming, at no point did I give you an evaluation of my perception of your intelligence. For all I know, English is your second language, or third.

I have to admit that I got the same impression as FilmAlba did.  As written, I am not sure how else to take what you wrote. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Frankly, I almost always prefer the original to the (North) American remakes. I view the upcoming Dragon Tattoo film with deep trepidation. And for the record the only accented English that has ever given me trouble upon first listen was that of Rab C Nesbitt...but I think that had more to do with the Alchoholic slur than the Glaswegian twang.

I wasn't offering an opinion as to the quality.  FilmAlba, a little while ago, started a thread about the US remaking films from other countries.  As it happens, his reaction to this film, perfectly illustrates why that is done.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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for the record the only accented English that has ever given me trouble upon first listen was that of Rab C Nesbitt...


FWIW I'm English and I still can't understand Rab c Nesbitt!
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I have to admit that I got the same impression as FilmAlba did.  As written, I am not sure how else to take what you wrote. 

It was a comment on his grasp of English, which often has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with his enjoyment of something like True Grit. That and perhaps a lack of patience.
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FWIW I'm English and I still can't understand Rab c Nesbitt!

It took me twenty minutes, basically the whole first episode, before I started understand him. It was like learning a whole other language, but not.
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I have to admit that I got the same impression as FilmAlba did.  As written, I am not sure how else to take what you wrote. 

It was a comment on his grasp of English, which often has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with his enjoyment of something like True Grit. That and perhaps a lack of patience.


Or perhaps a genuine disability like dyslexia or Aspergers?

Maybe you don't understand either of these; but I can assure you that they can have a direct affect on someone's writing/typing abilities.
And to continue correcting him once he has explained he suffers from these conditions is not only completely insensitive it's downright rude IMO.
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I am dyslexic myself, but I prefer to view it as a challenge not a crutch. Nor do I wave it about as an excuse. I am particular about language and the widespread epidemic of using your instead of you're is one of my pet peeves.

I have also known people with Asberger's, some of the most intelligent I have ever met, in fact. In my experience it has little effect on spelling or language, but more on temperment, focus and non-verbal communication skills. Alba himself only referred to it in relation to his anger. Asberger syndrome would certainly affect patience, however.

But thanks for your opinion on what I am or am not familiar with. I appreciate it. Really.
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I am dyslexic myself, but I prefer to view it as a challenge not a crutch. Nor do I wave it about as an excuse. I am particular about language and the widespread epidemic of using your instead of you're is one of my pet peeves.

I have also known people with Asberger's, some of the most intelligent I have ever met, in fact. In my experience it has little effect on spelling or language, but more on temperment, focus and non-verbal communication skills. Alba himself only referred to it in relation to his anger. Asberger syndrome would certainly affect patience, however.

But thanks for your opinion on what I am or am not familiar with. I appreciate it. Really.


Dyslexia and comes in many forms and levels of severity. I mainly effects my spelling and my numeracy. My reading is pretty good but i tend to lose focus after awhile and writing seems to go all over the place.

And it's very well documented ppl with Aspergers get very angry at being called anything that calls into question there intelligence.
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...And it's very well documented ppl with Aspergers get very angry at being called anything that calls into question there intelligence.

Non-Aspies don't like it much either.
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I have to admit that I got the same impression as FilmAlba did.  As written, I am not sure how else to take what you wrote. 

It was a comment on his grasp of English, which often has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with his enjoyment of something like True Grit. That and perhaps a lack of patience.

Ah...I understand now.  Thanks for the explanation.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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I am dyslexic myself, but I prefer to view it as a challenge not a crutch. Nor do I wave it about as an excuse. I am particular about language and the widespread epidemic of using your instead of you're is one of my pet peeves.

One of mine too...along with loose, instead of lose.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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I'm dyslexic as well but mine comes in mostly getting left/right & east/west reversed.

Was real fun during Basic Training and the marching drills.
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I am dyslexic myself, but I prefer to view it as a challenge not a crutch. Nor do I wave it about as an excuse. I am particular about language and the widespread epidemic of using your instead of you're is one of my pet peeves.

One of mine too...along with loose, instead of lose.

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But thanks for your opinion on what I am or am not familiar with. I appreciate it. Really.


Whether or not you're being sarcastic here, I'm not sure.

However, if you are, indeed, being sarcastic I would like to point out my use of the word 'maybe'. I made no assumption as to whether you did know anything about the conditions in question I merely stated that if you didn't they could affect Alba as stated.

You obviously do know a lot about these conditions - and yet you continued to correct him on his use of language; so I am back to my opinion - that you were being insensitive and rude.

Whether or not these conditions are used as a crutch or a challenge I do not see how criticising someone can lead to anything but discomfort. Everyone deals with illness in different ways and I personally feel it is better to err on the side of caution when speaking to someone with an illness or disability.

For example - from the age of 9 until I was 18 I had a pronounced stutter. A condition which only intensified if (and when) I was teased.
Eventually I learned techniques to reduce and finally eradicate this condition - but, I can sure as hell tell you that I would never dream of drawing attention to, or being insensitive to someone else with a speech impediment.
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