But I can agree that the including of the "Adapted by" credit is not sure to include. 

And I agree also that without the title it's just a guessing. 

So the "Adapted for screen by" at Eaten Alive is Kim Henkel?
On many German sites he's listed:
Drehbuch: Kim Henkel
Drehbuch = screenplay -> Screenwriter credit is correct imho.

Quoting VirusPil:

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So the "Adapted for screen by" at Eaten Alive is Kim Henkel?
On many German sites he's listed:
Drehbuch: Kim Henkel
Drahbuch = screenplay -> Screenwriter credit is correct imho.

If the original credit was written in German, I would have bought the argument, but here the credit is translated from English to German to English and apparently losing something in the process.

I'd still leave him out.

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I agree with hal.  This sounds like a credit you would use when adapting a play, or musical, to the big screen.  One person would rewrite the original story so that it would flow better on screen.  The writers would then base their scrip on the adaptation.

Just a guess, and it would be nice to know what title this is.

Agree with Hal and Mad Martian. "Written by" is given if the same people wrote the story and the screenplay. It appears in this case that someone took their story and adapted it to film format and then the story writers continued and wrote the screenplay. I would give OMB to the adapted credit.

From the Writers Guild screen credit policy:

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7. "Written by"

The term "Written by" is used when the writer(s) is entitled to both the "Story by" credit and the "Screenplay by" credit.

This credit shall not be granted where there is source material of a story nature. However, biographical, newspaper and other factual sources may not necessarily deprive the writer of such credit.

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10. "Adaptation by"

This credit is appropriate in certain unusual cases where a writer shapes the direction of screenplay construction without qualifying for "Screenplay by" credit. In those special cases, and only as a result of arbitration, the "Adaptation by" credit may be used.

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5. "Adaptation by"

(See Section III. A.10)

Because of the strong feeling against a multiplicity of credits, the Guild is opposed to the general use of the "Adaptation by" credit. However, the Guild recognizes that there are certain unusual cases where credit is due a writer who shapes the direction of screenplay construction without qualifying for "Screenplay by" credit. In those special cases, and only as a result of arbitration, the "Adaptation by" credit may be used.

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"Screenplay by" X

"Based Upon a Screenplay by" Y

Current profile has screenwriter for X, OMB for Y. Think that is proper?

Yes.

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This has what to do with profiler? I don't believe that Profiler ever depended on any ouside source for ANY of its definitions.


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The Writers Guild determines the credits we see on-screen (for US films), so it's helpful to understand the rules for establishing these credits. The credits don't magically appear in uniform for no reason. A credit of "Written by" will always follow these rules. You won't have a case of a credit of "Written by" that actually means "Script Supervisor" because US films follow these rules.

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Ok, I think we all agree, that "written by" gets a credit.
According to the credit chart it is "Writer".

I can understand the opinions to leave the "Adapted by" credit out. And that's somethin I could agree with.

But why are some thinking OMB? Please explain it. An OMB credit is for the person who made the original material. (story, book, musical, comic or whatever the movie is based on)
So why should the person who adapts this original material get an OMB?

Perhaps sometimes it could be that someone overworks his own work to match to the screen,    but what makes you believe it in this case?

Let me see if I can explain...

As I said in my first post, the adapted by credit is for the person who formatted the material so that it would work well on screen.  He didn't write the screenplay, but he did write something.  The writers based their work on that material.  For that reason, I believe he should get an OMB credit.

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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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This has what to do with profiler? I don't believe that Profiler ever depended on any ouside source for ANY of its definitions.


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The Writers Guild determines the credits we see on-screen (for US films), so it's helpful to understand the rules for establishing these credits. The credits don't magically appear in uniform for no reason. A credit of "Written by" will always follow these rules. You won't have a case of a credit of "Written by" that actually means "Script Supervisor" because US films follow these rules.

But we don't use the WGA, the DGA or anyone else.

Now the simple answer is that right now Profiler has no provision for Adaptations of any kind. Adaptations can can go from film to book as has been don numerous times, an adaptation is usually some form of middle man, he takes an idea, it copuld be a book written by someone else, an outline or whatever and adapts it to the screen. Now as I said numerous films have gone to book, most of the Star Trek films the books were adapted from the screebnplay, even 2001: A Space Odyssey was adaptation of Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of an Arthur C. Clarke short stroy from the 50's called The Sentinel. Kubrick took that story and adapted it to film and Clarke in turn adapted the screenplay into a novel.

An argument CAN be made that any particular credit should be this that or something else, based on any number of valid arguments. But the fact remains is that at this time we have no provision for any Adaptation.<shrugs>

@Rick:

I didn't say it was Ok or not OK, I was questioning James because he quoted it as if it had some meaning or some significance to Profiler which it DOES NOT. he likes to quote these things, i don't however recall ANY instance in the Rules discussions where he ever made such a suggestion and he had a plenty of chances...if he felt it necessary. So, the fact remains is that their relevance to profiler and our definitions is ZERO.

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