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And Dan W is quite right that 1.85:1 and 1.78:1 tend to be confused. And I wouldn't trust the DVD cover to come up with the right figure.

Though, as I noted, unless you can prove otherwise, the cover is what the Rules say you should use.

Anyone else's 16X9 computer monitor leave bars on 1.85 movies and 1.78 as well? 1.78 films on my computer monitor look almost exactly like 2.35 do on my HDTV (in terms of the thickness of black bars), but nothing looks skewed in anyway (and I can usually notice any slight squeeze or stretch in picture). I don't believe anything is wrong, just the numbers don't add to 1.78 somehow. Maybe my 16X9 monitor is really 2.0.

Since this happens, I've found the best way to get the ratio is from powerdvd. Those who have read my contribution notes a few times have probably heard this one, but others may not have.

The default window for powerdvd is a perfect 1.78 (put in a disc and let it open powerdvd). 1.85 films will show small bars on the top and bottom. Not squint or you'll miss them small, they stand out clearly, esp. if you just got done with a 1.78 which fills the screen perfectly.
I can't say this is a forum approved method, but I have had no "no" votes for this reason on any submission, and all of the submissions with this note have been approved so far.
If you have powerdvd it's just so much easier than grabbing a screenshot then doing math, esp. when my screens come out skewed, but that's a whole nother topic.

I also use PowerDVD to verify. Whenever I'm not sure after that, I can still to the math on a screenshot.

EDIT: and my fellow DJ    is correct: the vast majority of "widescreen" computer screens are 16:10 rather than 16:9.

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Quoting bigdaddyhorse:

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Anyone else's 16X9 computer monitor leave bars on 1.85 movies and 1.78 as well?

Most LCD computer monitors are 16:10 due to whatever reasons. They have resolutions like 1440x900, 1680x1050 and 1920x1200.

In order to display a 1.78:1 movie properly they have to create black bars on their 1.60:1 screen.


(Yes I know that there are actual 16:9 LCD computer monitors out there)

Good to know, thanks for clearing that up for me. I wondered why everything looked perfect except for the pressence of the bars when watching fullscreen on my PC.

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Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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What the heck is overscan?

(I'm sure my square TV has none of it)

I'm on the otherhand sure that you are wrong

Right.  If you don't know what overscan is, you're almost certainly afflicted with it!

I have a LCD monitor for my computer that runs at FULL HD resolution 1920 x 1080, with that it is very, very easy to distinct between 1:1.85 and 1:1.78. Just use for example Power DVD and play the movie, if you see tiny black bars on top and bottom it is 1:1.85, if there are no black bars it is 1:1.78.


Donnie

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The vast majority of widescreen set are flat panels, meanign there shoudl be 0 overscan.

Should, yeah. But as other already stated, the reality says otherwise.

My Sony KDL-40W4500  has overscan per default. It is only possible to switch it off for the HDMI-Inputs, not for SCART, Component or TV.

cya, Mithi

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Quoting gardibolt:

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Quoting Kulju:

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Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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What the heck is overscan?

(I'm sure my square TV has none of it)

I'm on the otherhand sure that you are wrong

Right.  If you don't know what overscan is, you're almost certainly afflicted with it!

Cass:

It has been an issue with TV from the very beginning, It may not be quite as bad as it used to be, but it still exists and probably always will. You should seen what they used to do opening credits of Widescreen, the big squish.
Learn something new every day.  I figured it was a feature, rather than something that was basically sort of automatic. 

It has been an issue with TV from the very beginning, It may not be quite as bad as it used to be, but it still exists and probably always will. You should seen what they used to do opening credits of Widescreen, the big squish.   I remember what some movies used to look like, one of the more memorable was Swashbuckler, in the opening credits the pirate ship looked to be about 300 feet tall and 3 feet wide...maybe.

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