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Spelling failures in Overview on backcovers
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSwissFilm
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Hi

Often when I type from the backcover the Overview to a contribution I come over awful spelling mistakes that really hearts in the ears. Rules tell it must be exactly as it is on the backcover. But it really is a pain for me to write down something that is so awful sometimes. Perhaps this happens more in our German language as they translate things, happens perhaps less in English Overviews? How do you handle these spelling failures?

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It happens just as often in the UK at least. I would love to be able to correct the spelling mistakes too as they are usually all too obvious to me as spelling was something I have always been good at. But yes the rules say we have to copy them exactly - spelling mistakes and all.
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Always exactly on cover as the rules require. I personally prefer the rule the way it is. Matching the case exactly means everyone knows exactly how it needs to be done. Of course locally you can correct them and lock your overview.
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I own a film; A Shot in the Dark (1933) UPC 0825646070527; in which the overview on the back cover relates to the 1935 film of the same name starring Edward Van Sloan. I entered it exactly as prescribed by the rules, so anyone looking at it may well get confused.

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But it really is a pain for me to write down something that is so awful sometimes.

I have exactly the same position. I never understood the position to reproduce exactly what is on the cover since we have already a scan of back cover which does that perfectly, with fonts and colors. A few odd points like that in rules made me stop contributing, since contributing errors is just giving other users bad information.
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I own a film; A Shot in the Dark (1933) UPC 0825646070527; in which the overview on the back cover relates to the 1935 film of the same name starring Edward Van Sloan. I entered it exactly as prescribed by the rules, so anyone looking at it may well get confused.


Yep; there are a few like that (the Fu Manchu double bill I have has the overviews for the two films the wrong way around on the cover for example) but I agree with the Rule to match the cover exactly otherwise there would be too many times people would disagree on the 'correct' version and any rule that avoids flip-flopping and cannot be misinterpreted is a good starting place IMO!
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Often when I type from the backcover the Overview to a contribution I come over awful spelling mistakes that really hearts in the ears. Rules tell it must be exactly as it is on the backcover. But it really is a pain for me to write down something that is so awful sometimes. Perhaps this happens more in our German language as they translate things, happens perhaps less in English Overviews? How do you handle these spelling failures?

For the online we strive to describe the item as it is, and not as we want it to be. But that doesn't mean that you have to write down awful things. You can change and replace the actual text at will, just don't contribute your new personal overview.
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any rule that avoids flip-flopping and cannot be misinterpreted is a good starting place IMO!


I agree. I propose a new set of rules, very simple, easy to understand :

Leave every field blank.

It absolutely avoids flip-flopping.
It cannot be misinterpreted.
It is a good starting place.

and also

no rule update necessary when program change
no discusssion about interpretation
all oneline profiles perfectly consistent
the 11 pages of rules only in English can be replaced by one page in twenty different languages, putting all the world on the same page.
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I own a film; A Shot in the Dark (1933) UPC 0825646070527; in which the overview on the back cover relates to the 1935 film of the same name starring Edward Van Sloan. I entered it exactly as prescribed by the rules, so anyone looking at it may well get confused.


Yep; there are a few like that (the Fu Manchu double bill I have has the overviews for the two films the wrong way around on the cover for example) but I agree with the Rule to match the cover exactly otherwise there would be too many times people would disagree on the 'correct' version and any rule that avoids flip-flopping and cannot be misinterpreted is a good starting place IMO!


I am not saying that I disagree with the rule; only that there can be discrepancies (which still have to be followed per the rules).

Bill
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A few odd points like that in rules made me stop contributing, since contributing errors is just giving other users bad information.


Again with the term "errors".  We are not contributing errors.  If you mistyped a word in the overview that was not there, then contributed to the online, that would then be an error, for the actual result did not match the expected result.  If I type in letter for letter, what is in the overview, and I contribute that, then the actual result matches the expected result, therefore no error.  So please quit trying to make everybody feel guilty for wanting to contribute what they see, per the rules...

If the graphic artist "cover designer" put in a misspelling, then the error was his, not ours.  It is not our job to alter what is represented, for our own sense of correctness. As a collector, we represent what we collect as best as we can.


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A few odd points like that in rules made me stop contributing, since contributing errors is just giving other users bad information.


Again with the term "errors".  We are not contributing errors.  If you mistyped a word in the overview that was not there, then contributed to the online, that would then be an error, for the actual result did not match the expected result.  If I type in letter for letter, what is in the overview, and I contribute that, then the actual result matches the expected result, therefore no error.  So please quit trying to make everybody feel guilty for wanting to contribute what they see, per the rules...

If the graphic artist "cover designer" put in a misspelling, then the error was his, not ours.  It is not our job to alter what is represented, for our own sense of correctness. As a collector, we represent what we collect as best as we can.


Charlie


This is the way I always looked at it as well.
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Me too.
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Again with the term "errors".  We are not contributing errors.  If you mistyped a word in the overview that was not there, then contributed to the online, that would then be an error [...] It is not our job to alter what is represented, for our own sense of correctness. As a collector, we represent what we collect as best as we can.

I agree completely.
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As a collector, we represent what we collect as best as we can.

Agree with that. When I collect a "Shot in the Dark (1933)" movie, I do not want to have the "Shot in the Dark (1935)" overview on the profile, which is what I call an error, even if it matches the DVD cover.
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As a collector, we represent what we collect as best as we can.

Agree with that. When I collect a "Shot in the Dark (1933)" movie, I do not want to have the "Shot in the Dark (1935)" overview on the profile, which is what I call an error, even if it matches the DVD cover.



...the point that I make is....IT IS NOT OUR ERROR.  If it is that way on the cover and you decide to contribute what is not on the cover, then YOU are contributing an error.  The actual entry does not  meet the expected entry.

Charlie
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  If it is that way on the cover ...

Sorry, but I live in a real world, where facts are what happens really, not what is written by cover makers when they are incompetent.
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