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| Registered: March 23, 2007 |  Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | Some time ago I got into the habit of identifying UK locality profiles that should not have been there and requesting their deletion with an appropriate update (a kind of diversion to settle my mind). Unfortunately, I enjoyed identifying the profiles a lot more than I enjoyed making the tedious submissions to delete them.
Net result? I've got a list of profiles that need deleting and no drive to actually delete them.
If anyone has lots of free time and feels the desire to delete a load of bad profiles from the online database, they can be found in my ordered list. They need a once over to confirm that they're in the wrong locality, but the vast majority definitely are.
Stuart
P.S. I've only done <='A', and that was several hundred - I guess that the UK locality must have something like 5000+ profiles that need deleting, getting on for 15% (conservative guess). Just the job for someone who wants to up their contribution count! | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think removing them is only half the answer - we would also need to check what's the right locality and whether a profile for that disc already exists for that locality, and if not, make a new contribution for that locality.
E.g. a quick glance in your Ordered list shows an entry for American Graffiti that has a Dutch rating on the cover and an Overview in French. I reckon this should then be an entry made by someone from the French-speaking part of Belgium, as Belgium and Holland share the same rating system for DVD releases. In this particular case an entry might already exist in the Invelos database with Belgium as locality and an overview in Dutch (can't check now).
Also I noticed your Ordered list contains some entries with a Swedish flag on the back cover but an Overview in English (e.g. the Alone entries). No idea if they're released that way in Sweden. |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | When I was doing deleting, I would always check for the UPC and would more often than not find the 'correct' profile for the correct locality. The few that didn't have a correct profile I would submit in their native locality (saying why I was submitting them and that I'd not checked any of the data).
I think that most of these are simply mistakes of from the pre-locality days of DVD Profiler.
The example you've chosen is one where the correct locality would have to be submitted. America's Sweethearts however is an example of one where the correct profile in the correct locality also exists, so that one would be a straight deletion. | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DariusKyrak: Quote:
When I was doing deleting, I would always check for the UPC and would more often than not find the 'correct' profile for the correct locality. The few that didn't have a correct profile I would submit in their native locality (saying why I was submitting them and that I'd not checked any of the data). I guess that is the way forward. One question: did your unverified submissions get approved? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's funny I started doing this as well. It's amazing how many actually need deleting. I have a 'r2 uk' collection with all the dvd's from 0 to D in them (about 8000) and I think its at least 30% need deleting.
And that is only ones where from the cover scan you can determine that there isn't a UK rating logo (and not including any music videos which are exempt).
What would be nice is to not have to contribute them all to get them deleted, but to somehow just let Ken/Gerri know which ones need removing some other way. Maybe by sending a backup. | | | 
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ajm: Quote:
What would be nice is to not have to contribute them all to get them deleted, but to somehow just let Ken/Gerri know which ones need removing some other way. Maybe by sending a backup. Good call, there must be a way to remove them en-masse easier than current process - maybe a small program could be created that could filter out obvious incorrect profiles (MISMATCHED LOCALITY/SRP or MISMATCHED RATING/LOCALITY) - then verified and passed to Ken/Gerri? | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I guess that is the way forward. One question: did your unverified submissions get approved? I've done this in the past when I've discovered a disc with the incorrect Locality and they seem to be accepted... though things have been tightened up recently! Agreed it's a hang-over from the pre-Locality days; IIRC when the Locality field was introduced it defaulted all R2s to UK resulting in the problems we have now... it's one of the reasons I regret them re-merging the Intervocative database as, though it took effort, the building of the Invelos one only from users actual local databases was getting rid of an awful lot of these! | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was flagging the incorrect ones. I also flagged profiles without images. My theory would also involve removing profiles over a year old without cover scans. I don't recall how far I'd got through the flagging process, but when I'd got the list finished I was going to see what could be done. The hard part is loading them all into a collection. You can't flag a whole batch for download  | | |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I guess that is the way forward. One question: did your unverified submissions get approved? I used to, but I don't recall needing to submit one since the rules were tightened up. But what else can you do but try? | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was just curious to see how long it took to do the spotting, so I did 'Z'. It only took a few minutes to process all 93 titles, of which 28 definitely should be deleted and another 5 were suspicious. Thing is, deleting those 28 would probably take another half-hour at least and that side of things is dull as anything.
Edit: Grrr... I've got the bug again now. I just went and did 'Y' as well.
Edit2: 49 out of 201 that are obviously wrong for those who keep track. | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DariusKyrak: Quote:
Edit: Grrr... I've got the bug again now. I just went and did 'Y' as well.
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
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Edit: Grrr... I've got the bug again now. I just went and did 'Y' as well.
X should be easy then Stoooop iiiiitttt! (44 out of 145)  | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | If indeed the number of bad UK profiles is in the order of 5000+ and if this is indeed the result of early DVDP versions defaulting R2 to UK (can't remember that, probably before my DVDP days...), then perhaps it would make sense to contact Ken & Gerri and suggest a one-off batch sweep to eliminate these profiles? I mean, the existence of these profiles is something of an artifact caused by developments in DVDP over time. Removing all of them manually would cost the user community many, many hours of tedious work. You could just try and launch an appeal to Invelos to make it possible for the UK user community to compile a list of non-UK entries with UK as locality, submit it and then have them deleted in one single sweep operation. Does this make any sense to you lot? Edit: P.S. We could put the new "Contact us" feature to some good use here...  | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ajm: Quote:
I was flagging the incorrect ones. I also flagged profiles without images. My theory would also involve removing profiles over a year old without cover scans.
I don't recall how far I'd got through the flagging process, but when I'd got the list finished I was going to see what could be done. The hard part is loading them all into a collection. You can't flag a whole batch for download Could you/Ken create a tool that would flag the 'suspect' profiles within certain criteria for deletion - or do the profiles need downloading to a collection? | | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only way I know is to inspect each cover scan. Which requires you having the profiles downloaded. Its painful, just adding them to the download list, the download you can leave going over night. The actually flagging of them is pretty easy. Unless we can get Ken/Gerri to commit to removing them, without having to contribute all 5000 or so (found my original post that I thought it was about 7000) then not really worth the effort in doing the rest. I've fired off a support ticket to Ken/Gerri to see what we could do about the mass removal. Found my original posting about this as well hereAssuming there is a way to do this, I guess we could all pick a letter to do , post here that we're doing that one. The load all those profiles in a new collection and either tag the bad ones, or remove the good ones. After we're got all 27 done submit them all to Ken/Gerri. | | |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | I dropped a PM to Ken a little earlier to ask the question (about the same time as my last post), and he seems amenable to doing a batch update (via a backup file containing all of the bad DVDs). I'm going to send off what I've done to him now (most of A and all of XYZ).
Ajm, you may want to do the same.
I actually quite enjoy pulling out the bad DVDs - kind of therapeutic. I was originally checking profiles based upon suspicious UPCs, but downloading them and simply looking for suspect covers is much faster.
If you like, I'll continue with U.
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