Looking to find out if we add Location Crew or 2nd Unit crew

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Looking to find out if we add Location Crew or 2nd Unit crew

We do no add unit crew.  Location crew, however, is not the same thing as unit crew.

Just so there is no mistake, all crew are unit crew, so the rule can't be taken at face value.

The main or first unit does the principle shooting with the main actors.
The 2nd unit will film everything else...stunt sequences with stuntmen, establishing shots, inserts, background shots, scenery.  Basically anything that doesn't involve the principle cast.

The location crew, or location unit, is the main unit on location, usually in a different country.  These crew can vary from location to location because it is cheaper to hire local talent, rather than fly in your whole main crew.

Some people want to leave them out or even remove them from profiles.  I will always enter them.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Just so there is no mistake, all crew are unit crew, so the rule can't be taken at face value.

The main or first unit does the principle shooting with the main actors.
The 2nd unit will film everything else...stunt sequences with stuntmen, establishing shots, inserts, background shots, scenery.  Basically anything that doesn't involve the principle cast.

That is clear to me. But ... doesn't what you just wrote also mean that Visual Effect crews for external companies are also unit crews, comparable to 2nd unit crews? They don't do principal shooting, so why do they get added?

Thanks, So Location crew is ok.

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Quoting Darknite:

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Thanks, So Location crew is ok.

No, it's not - for the purposes of the online database that's unit crew as well. When Invelos was asked whether a group of credits under a "New York Crew" header was allowed, this was their answer.

This has been an ongoing debate. T!M's link to notes that Gerri addresses UNIT Crew. She mentions nothing about Location Crew. And, as far as many, many community members are concerned they are two distinctly separate things.

Until Ken or Gerry specifically address Location Crew, and this has been requested numerous times, imho Location Crew ARE allowed.

Edit: I believe the film "Babel" is one example that helped clarify the difference for me.

Quoting Kathy:

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T!M's link to notes that Gerri addresses UNIT Crew. She mentions nothing about Location Crew.

The thread in which that statement was made, is called "Location Unit Credits". The question that she's answering, is specifically about crew under a "New York Crew" header. Yet it's not about location crew? Sorry, but it doesn't get any more specific than that, and I have no desire to rehash this any further, as we've all done it to death already. No matter how many times we go round the block - nothing will change. It's unfortunate, though: we're so often clamoring for input from Invelos, and one of the few times we actually get it, it doesn't seem to help at all... 

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Just so there is no mistake, all crew are unit crew, so the rule can't be taken at face value.

The main or first unit does the principle shooting with the main actors.
The 2nd unit will film everything else...stunt sequences with stuntmen, establishing shots, inserts, background shots, scenery.  Basically anything that doesn't involve the principle cast.

That is clear to me. But ... doesn't what you just wrote also mean that Visual Effect crews for external companies are also unit crews, comparable to 2nd unit crews? They don't do principal shooting, so why do they get added?

Because there is a Profiler credit dedicated to them.

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Quoting GSyren:

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Just so there is no mistake, all crew are unit crew, so the rule can't be taken at face value.

The main or first unit does the principle shooting with the main actors.
The 2nd unit will film everything else...stunt sequences with stuntmen, establishing shots, inserts, background shots, scenery.  Basically anything that doesn't involve the principle cast.

That is clear to me. But ... doesn't what you just wrote also mean that Visual Effect crews for external companies are also unit crews, comparable to 2nd unit crews? They don't do principal shooting, so why do they get added?

Because there is a Profiler credit dedicated to them.

There's a dedicated Profiler credit for 2nd unit visual effects? I must have missed that.

There isn't a credit for "Main Unit - Director" either, but no one has an issue with that credit...