So it's early days and there's obviously a mad rush to pound out as many of these as possible.  From the ones I'm receiving in my collection, I'm noticing a familiar pattern of errors that could have easily been eliminated.

Aspect ratio - if you have both full frame and widescreen or a widescreen without an identifiable ratio, it's probably wrong.

Color - if you have both color and black and white checked, it's probably wrong

Studios - I'm seeing a bunch of lazy copying of the studios without any attempt to sort through which ones belong to which film.

We're good about assigning the running time and title but seem to be lacking on these other feature-specific data points.

Funny... I noticed most seem to forget to fix the run time.

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if you have both full frame and widescreen ... ratio, it's probably wrong.

Not wrong if the disc has a widescreen and p&s version of the same film. That used to be fairly common, but not anymore.

Obviously you're correct.  However, the odds of there being a widescreen version and a P&S version of the same move plus some completely different movie, all on the same side of disc, are pretty low...at least in my experience.  Of course the real point of my OP was that it's a pretty easy sanity check to see if you got everything right before you submit.

with all the multi-movie single sided disc that I have, never seen a single film with both WS & P&S on the disc.
A sanity check would involve actually putting the disc in and viewing it.

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if you have both full frame and widescreen ... ratio, it's probably wrong.

Not wrong if the disc has a widescreen and p&s version of the same film. That used to be fairly common, but not anymore.

Obviously you're correct.  However, the odds of there being a widescreen version and a P&S version of the same move plus some completely different movie, all on the same side of disc, are pretty low...at least in my experience.  Of course the real point of my OP was that it's a pretty easy sanity check to see if you got everything right before you submit.

Why would the widescreen and P&S version have to be on the same side of the disc?

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So it's early days and there's obviously a mad rush to pound out as many of these as possible.  From the ones I'm receiving in my collection, I'm noticing a familiar pattern of errors that could have easily been eliminated.

Aspect ratio - if you have both full frame and widescreen or a widescreen without an identifiable ratio, it's probably wrong.

Color - if you have both color and black and white checked, it's probably wrong

Studios - I'm seeing a bunch of lazy copying of the studios without any attempt to sort through which ones belong to which film.

We're good about assigning the running time and title but seem to be lacking on these other feature-specific data points.

Also, please check that the online cast and crew list matches your local before you remove it from the parent and add it a to the child. There are lots of updates coming through in my collection where the parent has uncredited actors that are removed in the child profile. Not very fun.

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Because that's the only reason you'd use an alternate profile...the entire point of this thread...which seems to be lost on some.

More to the point, you would need a movie repeated with different aspect ratios, plus a completely different movie all on the same side to encounter this situation.  The point of alternate IDs is to separate the data for the different movies.  The same movie with different aspect ratios doesn't qualify for an alternate ID.

I heartily concede that piles of discs were produced in the early days of DVD with multiple aspect ratios of the same movie....none of which are at all relevant to this topic. 

I'm just trying to understand your point of view.

Let's forget completely different movies on one disc for the moment.

Are you suggesting that if a title has both a widescreen and P&S version of the same film on one disc but are on different sides of the disc then two disc profiles should be used (one for the widescreen version and one for the P&S version)?

A single profile currently has the capability to list disc IDs for both sides of one disc.  It also has the option to check both the WS and P&S checkboxes.

In this case, I would say this is akin to different cuts of a movie (i.e. theatrical and director's cut) on one disc where Ken has previously stated that we don't create alternate IDs for these specific cases.

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Because that's the only reason you'd use an alternate profile...the entire point of this thread...which seems to be lost on some.

More to the point, you would need a movie repeated with different aspect ratios, plus a completely different movie all on the same side to encounter this situation.  The point of alternate IDs is to separate the data for the different movies.  The same movie with different aspect ratios doesn't qualify for an alternate ID.

I heartily concede that piles of discs were produced in the early days of DVD with multiple aspect ratios of the same movie....none of which are at all relevant to this topic. 

I'm just trying to understand your point of view.

Let's forget completely different movies on one disc for the moment.

Are you suggesting that if a title has both a widescreen and P&S version of the same film on one disc but are on different sides of the disc then two disc profiles should be used (one for the widescreen version and one for the P&S version)?

A single profile currently has the capability to list disc IDs for both sides of one disc.  It also has the option to check both the WS and P&S checkboxes.

In this case, I would say this is akin to different cuts of a movie (i.e. theatrical and director's cut) on one disc where Ken has previously stated that we don't create alternate IDs for these specific cases.

If you re-read the last sentence I wrote that you quoted, I think I'm pretty clear that these do not qualify for alternate profiles.

I obviously should have specified that this was for the practice of splitting an existing profile into many profiles due to multiple movies on the disc.

Reissues are a completely different matter, however I don't even know how a reissue would appear as an update since you'd have to explicitly go looking for it to add to your collection.

I was trying to bring notice to the bulk trashing of existing data that has been, and likely will continue for the foreseeable future.

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My guess is that this is a side effect that the user has to manually check the "Submit uncredited cast" checkbox when contributing changes.  People are probably overlooking this option if they're in a hurry to contribute the changes.

Maybe, but I've also seen accepted and documented birth years removed from the crew section.