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Windows 8
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
Registered: March 13, 2007
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sorry I tried to search but couldn't find the answer, does Dvd Profiler work without problems on a Windows 8 machine. Im looking into a new laptop and its hard to find one with Windows 7 now days.

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Yes.

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Some people consider Win8 to be a problem though.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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why is that?

Id really like to know because as I said its hard to find a laptop with windows 7
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I haven't had any problems, nor have I seen any reported.
The only problem I've had with Win 8 is getting used to and finding things.
My new PC came with a lot of apps, (must be over 100) and when I update a program it puts the new one at the end of start screen.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Where to start:

They changed a lot within the look and handling.
First of all the missing Start-menu comes to mind, which is now a full-size Start-screen.

All-in-all M$ is trying to do it the Apple-way, means: hide away all OS-specific functions and leave the toys in the foreground.

Probably best to find out yourself and test Win8 for a while.
If after some weeks you find that you'll never get used to Win8, Win7 licenses aren't that expensive anymore, and if your old Win7 computer broke down you probably have one in spare anyhow.

But who knows, probably you even like it more than the "old-fashioned" Win7.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
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sorry I tried to search but couldn't find the answer, does Dvd Profiler work without problems on a Windows 8 machine. Im looking into a new laptop and its hard to find one with Windows 7 now days.

Mike


Yes, it does! I'll downgrade to Win7 Pro anyway!
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sorry I tried to search but couldn't find the answer, does Dvd Profiler work without problems on a Windows 8 machine. Im looking into a new laptop and its hard to find one with Windows 7 now days.

Mike

???? Here is one of several prior threads regarding DVDP 0n Windowss 8. Some of your questions may be addressed there.

Some more info.

Yet another. Between those three threads, you should be able to get what you need, or reopen the thread with a further question.
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First of all the missing Start-menu comes to mind, which is now a full-size Start-screen.

And second? since I cannot find any significant changes from user perspective beside that. It's also very easy to get "old" start menu back.
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All-in-all M$ is trying to do it the Apple-way, means: hide away all OS-specific functions and leave the toys in the foreground.

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Probably best to find out yourself and test Win8 for a while.
If after some weeks you find that you'll never get used to Win8, Win7 licenses aren't that expensive anymore

There shouldn't be any problems
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and if your old Win7 computer broke down you probably have one in spare anyhow.

It's most probably OEM license which is tied to hardware, so no go.
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I'll downgrade to Win7 Pro anyway!

May I ask why?
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and if your old Win7 computer broke down you probably have one in spare anyhow.

It's most probably OEM license which is tied to hardware, so no go.


Sorry for Euro-centered thinking.
In Europe this tying a software license to hardware has been explicitly outlawed, so here it's legal to use your "old" OEM license on a new computer.

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Probably best to find out yourself and test Win8 for a while.
If after some weeks you find that you'll never get used to Win8, Win7 licenses aren't that expensive anymore

There shouldn't be any problems


Strangely many of my customers, despite your statement, do have significant problems getting used to Win8. Maybe a problem of age and what you grew into, but nevertheless there are problems.

I know that Win8 is basically Win7 (with some minor changes) which is basically Vista.
Nevertheless the changes made within Win8 are not really good for the classical Desktop-Setup.
Controlling the Start-Screen with a mouse is a PITA, ending one of those tile-apps only works by Taskmanager or key-combo, shutting down the system is only possible by key-combo (or request of new installations) ...

Really, compared to this (IMO) design-faults, naming the button that leads to the shutdown-options as "Start" was a minor problem.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Microsoft is coming out with Windows 8.1 in a couple of months, rumour has it that it will bring back the start button (if not the menu, but you can always download Classic Shell for that) and fix and improve some other issues. It will be a free upgrade for Windows 8 users. All in all, Windows 8 works well on new computers but some older hardware might have compatibility issues. For example the integrated graphics on my netbook is not supported in full resolution but it works if you install the old Windows 7 drivers in compatibility mode. But I have the same issue with new versions of Ubuntu so it's not a Windows specific problem.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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I must admit I found it awkward when I initially switched, one of the key things to learn is that the top or bottom right and left of the screen are key.

Once you learn this and what functions it has available on the start screen vs desktop it becomes quite easy to use. For example the shut down button is on the right hand destop menu now.

It's also handy to know that you can simply start typing the name of the app you want on the start screen to make it a lot easier to find them. Easily missed as there is no search box visible on the screen unlike Win 7's start menu, although it can be accessed from the right hand menu.

Although I don't use the live tile apps you can use the mouse to close them on the start screen, if move the mouse to top left and slide down it displays a list of apps that are running. You can then right click and close. I'll admit the app should just have a close button, but the functionality is there.

Overall I think it's a case of a lot of new design, not being explained very well, most people don't have an MS expert sat next to them, that has caused the problem. Albeit there are some design decisions that could have done with some better research.
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Although I don't use the live tile apps you can use the mouse to close them on the start screen, if move the mouse to top left and slide down it displays a list of apps that are running. You can then right click and close. I'll admit the app should just have a close button, but the functionality is there.

There's an easier way for this too. While you have your app open move your cursor close to the top of the screen and cursor turns into "hand symbol". Keep you left mouse button pressed and drag the app at the bottom of the screen. Function is similar how you close teh apps with touch screen.
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Sorry for Euro-centered thinking.
In Europe this tying a software license to hardware has been explicitly outlawed, so here it's legal to use your "old" OEM license on a new computer.

Source?
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Strangely many of my customers, despite your statement, do have significant problems getting used to Win8. Maybe a problem of age and what you grew into, but nevertheless there are problems.

Or maybe because you haven't instructed them correctly 

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Controlling the Start-Screen with a mouse is a PITA, ending one of those tile-apps only works by Taskmanager or key-combo, shutting down the system is only possible by key-combo (or request of new installations) ...

None of this is true.
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Really, compared to this (IMO) design-faults, naming the button that leads to the shutdown-options
as "Start" was a minor problem.

I believe that in this case the problem lies between the keyboard and the seat 
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Main reason I continue to use Windows 8 is that it seems to have enhanced the performance of my laptop and cleaned up the drivers on one of my desktops. It was just a relatively cheap and easy way to clean up without having to re-install applications.

I run 99% in "Desktop" mode (e.g. Windows 7 look and feel), which you get just by clicking the Desktop icon. On one of the machines, I was nervous about going to Windows 8, so I installed in dual-boot mode. I almost never boot Windows 7 now, and wish I had saved the disk space and the extra effort of re-installing favorite apps.

I am guessing that since Windows 8 has a core which is basically Windows RT, it had to be streamlined and optimized to run on lesser hardware such as a tablet. My perception is that W8 boots faster and OS functions run faster. May be my imagination, maybe not - all I know is I lost all urges to buy a new laptop since I installed it. My old one is now fast enough again.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
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I almost never boot Windows 7 now, and wish I had saved the disk space and the extra effort of re-installing favorite apps.

Why don't you just delete Win 7 partition and then extend the volume so you'll have that space in use again?
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I am guessing that since Windows 8 has a core which is basically Windows RT

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My perception is that W8 boots faster and OS functions run faster.

I've noticed the performance increase too. Fast boot is an illusion though, since Win8 never actually "shut down". It goes kind of semi hibernate state. Only way to see how long Win8 actually boot is to restart the computer. Then OS boot from scratch.
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