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Cats and animal euthanasia
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwhispering
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Mainly aimed at the cat people on the forums. What would you do in my situation (not looking for advice, just want to hear your opinion)?

So a little over 2 years ago i got two cats (little shy of 10yo both). Apart from the fact that the other only had one eye, "Perfectly healthy" she said. Well, 2 weeks in and a visit to the doctor the one eyed girl had a chronic ear infection, "to get to this point shes had it for months" doctor said.
2 years later, she still has it. Been on and off on ear drops. Now going through the 5th type. The bacteria seems to change every now and then though.
Last summer she was diagnosed with something in her lungs, later diagnosed as a chronic infection in her bronchus. But not a problem ATM, has stopped coughing. At the same time it came evident from the blood tests that her liver values were also off. Not alarmingly, though.
2 months ago her only eyes pupil got dilated, apparently its the same thing that took her other eye. I figured i'll do a full check up, take care of everything.
So robbed my savings account, and tried to do that. Apart from doing re-checkups on the previous things (blood tests, x-ray etc) they also removed calculus from her teeth, it had apparently got so bad that they had to remove 2 of her tooth too. The eye is now fully blind, and the medication lasts for the rest of her life. But she isn't responding to the medication as well anymore. Apparently there is no alternative, so a bigger dose. If that doesn't help it will have to be surgically removed.

So my question is, given the circumstances, would you go for animal euthanasia?
I have no idea if the cat is suffering or not, shes always hid it well. Although the treatment has been way more expensive then i can afford, so can't keep it up like this forever. I'm not emotionally that attached to the cat. I just don't want to put a price tag to it.
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These types of situations are so difficult. As much as I have loved my animals over the years, I too have had to make this decision for my pets.

Chronic illness and long term medical treatment takes a toll on the body but it can be difficult to assess if your animal is suffering.

Is she still eating and drinking? Does she still enjoy things? Has her behavior changed? Does she still take comfort in petting or touching? Is she acting different? Fearful? Lashing out?

Although I always seemed to know when it was time, even now I sometimes wonder if I made the right decision. But, I did what I felt in my heart was right for them.

No one can know for sure when it is time, the best advice I can give to you is to lsten to what your heart is telling you.
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Sorry to hear about your (and your cat's) misery.

I have to agree with Kathy, the decision you have to make now is one of the hardest a pet-owner has to make.
From the description you gave I'm sure that your brain already knows what has to be done, it's just the good ole heart that clings to hope (as usual).

Animals, other than humans, have one big advantage: When all hope is lost they can be redeemed from their suffering. And that's exactly what it will be, when you make this decision. No need to look for a price-tag anywhere.

I hope to have the inner strength to make the right decision when it's up to me. Until then I pray that this day is far away for me and my three dogs (8, 5 and 4 years old).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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It's a very tough decision. I had to have my first cat put to sleep many years ago when I was about 15 years old.

He had a liver disease and simply was not eating or drinking anything at all. You could tell that he felt terrible, as he never had any energy left for anything at all. He no longer groomed himself, etc.. The only thing left to do would have been to insert a food tube and manually feed him. Something was probably always wrong with his metabolism, because he weighed about 20-23 pounds most of his adult life.

I grew up around animals and an animal clinic. My best friend's father has been the vet to all of my pets throughout my life. He agreed that the best thing to do was to put him to sleep, because he was obviously suffering and going to suffer more. So with much consternation, we agreed to have him put to sleep to end his suffering.
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I do whatever it took if she isn't miserable. Blind kitties can still do okay.
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One morning as my step-father was driving my mother to work, she told him to stop. She had saw a kitten that had been abandoned by side of the road. The kitten was blind and they took it home. The kitten got along just fine.
It had an unusual trick, they didn't know who taught it to do. It would roll up the little blanket that it slept when it woke and unroll the blanket when it was ready to go to sleep.
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She eats, sleeps and walks around the apartment. Doesn't play anymore, doesn't groom herself much anymore. Avoids most high places and the other cat bullies her every now and then. But she wasn't that energetic to begin with. The whole time i've had her, shes had a chronic ear infection and only one eye, so i've never seen her being "normal".

Regular eye pressure for cats is 15-25, she had it at over 60 (which should be extremely painful). Didn't even notice it. Only after she was pumped full of painkillers and was in intravenous therapy for a day, did i see her being "energetic". ATM its at 40.

I've read quite a bit on the internet about blind cats being able to live their lives. The thing that worries me is that there is no end to it, everything seems to be getting worse. Little by little. If she finally stops bumping to the walls, will the liver fail next? or the lungs? Theres also some personal sacrifices that id have to do. Not able to move the furniture much and not able to go on a vacation. Since its close to impossible for me to get someone to feed the cat, give her eye drops 2-3 times a day and in my apartment. Since moving her is out of the question.

Next visit to the vet is in may. I'll have to think this through by then. 1 vet has said its not a cats life living blind, and another that its possible shed live a happy life.
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Only after she was pumped full of painkillers and was in intravenous therapy for a day, did i see her being "energetic".


This concerns me and makes me think your cat has chronic pain. If she is suffering than none of the other treatments will have the optimum result.

It sounds as though she was dehydrated from not drinking enough and the IV therapy enabled her to get enough fluids.

Depending on what medication she was receiving, pain medications do not typically have "energetic" effects.

It's likely that the medications and fluids made her feel better resulting in her acting more "normal". Pain effects every aspect of life and it sounds as though your cat might be in pain.

I would discuss starting her on some type of pain medication and see if this will helps improve her quality of life.
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It sounds as though she was dehydrated from not drinking enough and the IV therapy enabled her to get enough fluids.


This was right after the eye thing 1-2 months back. She started vomiting and soon stopped eating. Didn't eat for like 5-6 days. Which after she got that fluids thing that had vitamin B if i recall, 2 painkillers and something that stopped her vomiting.

What was strange, is that soon after, my other cat went through the same thing. vomiting and stopped eating. He got through it in about 4-5 days. And never stopped completely eating. But the dude has always been less picky about hes food, and tried to eat small bits. While the other stopped completely.

The thing about painkillers is that most of them worsen the thing on her liver. So treat one thing, worsen the other. I have prescriptions for 2 different pain killers that i can safely give her, but should only do when shes in pain. The vet said their extremely hard to give to a cat (something about buying capsules, oiling them with butter and forcing through her throat), so haven't even tried. She had a checkup for her eye yesterday and the vet said it doesn't seem to be in pain ATM.
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If you decide to try pain meds, get some that can be broken into halves or quarters. This way you can give her a smaller dose.

I would also give her half in the morning and half twelve hours later. Or, try to give her just a small dose when she is most alert and active.

Ask your doctor about giving her a half of a baby aspirin at bedtime. You need to be careful because human meds work differently so he may even recommend a smaller dose.

I've found that if you put the medicine in a tiny bit of their favorite food or tuna and warm it in the microwave. This increases the aroma and makes the cat more likely to eat it.

A final thought, have you looked into alternative therapies such as vitamins or herbs? For example, I give my cats L-lysine to prevent respiratory infections.
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A final thought, have you looked into alternative therapies such as vitamins or herbs? For example, I give my cats L-lysine to prevent respiratory infections.


The thing is, shes extremely picky about food. She doesn't eat any can food at all (have gone through every brand they sell here), she eats the cereals (no idea what you call it in english) and raw food (broilers and atlantic herring). With fish i add Multicat vitamins to it. To counteract the "bad" things about fish. Loss of vitamin E if i remember right. But thats about it. 1,5 years ago, the vet thought her ear infections could be because of allergy. So she ate only raw food for 6 months with the vitamins. So if its allergy, the fish is the last thing to check, but its also the hardest. Since its the only food she really likes.
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If she's blind in the eye and it's paining her, I'd say remove it if you can afford it. Blind cats can get along quite well and I've even been fooled by blind cats before into thinking they could see. The key thing to take into account is that a blind cat will memorize the house layout and it'll be important to keep things the same.

Removing the eye would be my guess as to the next step considering you said she became more energetic while on pain meds. Without a painful eye, she may revert back to her previous self - sans sight. She'll need toys that make noise.

If her other ailments are more of an annoyance than painful, she should be able to ignore those.

As for euthanasia, my main argument is quality of life. If she's in constant pain with little to no chance of improving, it may be the more humane way to go. Ask yourself if the pain she's enduring is better than the pain you'd feel once she was gone.
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