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Copy cast / crew from another profile over existing entries
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorapltm
Registered: May 11, 2007
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I've tried to search for this but was unable to find anything on the subject.
When a profile already has cast and or crew submitted is it allowed to copy data from another profile over it?

Personally I would say not, but I don't know if Ken ever said anything on this.
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I nwould prefer NOT, but Ken says OK. I would make one suggeastion to cloning data, always check thye cloned data against the actual data, it is NOT always the same,m andn adde a noten to your notes thyat you did thye check, Assuming you did.
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Personally I often take credits from another profile as a starting point (saves a lot of typing), and then compare with the actual credits and use the CLT to enter credits in DVDProfiler.

In this case it is specifically where all / most of the credits is already in the profile and cloned data is put over it, I've just seen such a contribution that is why I'm asking...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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In general "cloning" is allowed.
The only premise required: The cloned data has to be from an "accepted profile", which will always be the case.
Gladly we are allowed to vote "No" if the cloned data is incorrect for the credited Cast/Crew.

Sadly we are not allowed to vote "No" if the cloned data contains unverified Uncredited Cast.
The fact that this data is in the database guarantees it's persistence. We are not allowed to touch it unless we can prove that it is incorrect.
Which leads to the question: How to prove that something is not?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Well, I for one when cloning the cast credits (which doesn't happen often as I normally start from scratch) will not copy over anybody uncredited unless I know that they're there.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Ken and invelos allow for data to be cloned from one profile in the database to another.

Invelos has even made this feature easy by letting one copy, past and append directly on the Cast and Crew Edit page.

I frequently use this feature as it saves a lot of time and typing. It has also been my experience that in the vast majority of cases, the credits are exactly the same when I double check the cloned data with the actual credits.

In the rare case that there are a few differences, these can be fixed by the community when it gets to it. Ken even allows for a few mistakes if the majority of a profile is correct.

There are a couple of things I do when I clone a profile.

I always check the contribution notes to see where the data I am cloning was taken from and I document this information.

I also include the UPC or EAN numbers of the cloned profile so that the community can check that profile.

So, my notes would be something like "Cast and Crew copied from the same film in the invelos database UPC 000000-000000. Documentation notes this data came directly from the DVD credits."

I often update several dozen DVDs at a time adding/correcting data as needed. When I do these updates I am not going to take the time to go through all the credits unless I actually watch the movie.

Once I do get to seeing the movie, I do double check all the data for that DVD. Because, of course, the best source of data is the DVD itself.
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