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| Registered: June 8, 2007 |  Posts: 151 |
| | Posted: | | | | X-Men: First Class apparently came out with multiple Slip cases, And I understand that the first one submitted should be the one we stay with. So the first one submitted was a pre-release case picture of the character of Xavier. Now there are two submittions for the real slip cover's, One with Xavier (like the original submittion) and one of Magneto. So should it be changed to Magneto or stay with the same of Xavier. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would say 1st of actual slip case from a retail DVD. Same as Sin City. This is why I'm against all pre-release contributions. Cast& crew are usually wrong credits. Cover art is wrong. And who votes on a pre-release. If you don't contribute a disc ID with the 1st contribution well no contribution. If you don't have a drive so you can get a disc id. to bad. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Pre-release contributions are important for wish lists. We can just fix anything wrong later. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I would say 1st of actual slip case from a retail DVD. Same as Sin City. I agree with this. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Pre-release contributions are important for wish lists. We can just fix anything wrong later. That would be the logical thing to do. But once it is in the system others copy cast and crew for their contribution. Adding incorrect profiles to the CLT that seem not to be corrected even after Common name threads have been posted, with the correct crew or cast name credit for a movie but nobody seems to change the other profiles. So now for a common name you don't just check CLT to have to check Forums for a Common name thread to see if one has been done and what the real credits are. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I would say 1st of actual slip case from a retail DVD. Same as Sin City. That was my understanding as well. |
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| Registered: June 8, 2007 | | Posts: 151 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with what you all are saying but it is also a interparatation of the rules in what we believe it may say, not what the rules really say. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darknite: Quote:
I agree with what you all are saying but it is also a interparatation of the rules in what we believe it may say, not what the rules really say. The rules do not address pre-release covers nor do they address releases with multiple covers on release day. They only address re-release covers. This particular situation is simply a 'Gentleman's Agreement'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darknite: Quote:
I agree with what you all are saying but it is also a interparatation of the rules in what we believe it may say, not what the rules really say. Where in the rules does it say the cover scans must be like the pre-release? In any case, if yours gets approved, fine. Anyone who wants the other please PM me and I will e-mail my scans. | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darknite: Quote:
X-Men: First Class apparently came out with multiple Slip cases, And I understand that the first one submitted should be the one we stay with. So the first one submitted was a pre-release case picture of the character of Xavier. Now there are two submittions for the real slip cover's, One with Xavier (like the original submittion) and one of Magneto. So should it be changed to Magneto or stay with the same of Xavier. What do you mean like. If the prerelease is different in any way (Possible no back cover photo. Which usually there isn't with a prerelease image. or anything on the front cover missing DVD logo, photo different size.) then it should be replaced. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darknite: Quote:
Now there are two submittions for the real slip cover's, One with Xavier (like the original submittion) and one of Magneto. So should it be changed to Magneto or stay with the same of Xavier. What does it matter that your images are "like" the pre-release images? In the case of multiple covers for the same title it's always been "first in" stays in the database. In this case TheMovieman's images were submitted 2 days prior to yours and are of much higher quality. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Quoting Darknite:
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Now there are two submittions for the real slip cover's, One with Xavier (like the original submittion) and one of Magneto. So should it be changed to Magneto or stay with the same of Xavier.
What does it matter that your images are "like" the pre-release images? In the case of multiple covers for the same title it's always been "first in" stays in the database. In this case TheMovieman's images were submitted 2 days prior to yours and are of much higher quality. well nobody posted that. 1st in. the only way I would vote differently is if first in was crap. Then I would vote on the better quality, even if it was the 3rd or 4th contributed all at the same time. As long as they are a 1st release cover. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I would say 1st of actual slip case from a retail DVD. Same as Sin City. This is why I'm against all pre-release contributions. Cast& crew are usually wrong credits. Cover art is wrong. And who votes on a pre-release. If you don't contribute a disc ID with the 1st contribution well no contribution. If you don't have a drive so you can get a disc id. to bad. First problem with banning all contributions without a disc id is that it wouldn't allow pre-releases from being entered into the database. Another problem is that some profiles have no disc ids at all, and have been that way for years. Another problem is that on rare occasions re-releases/re-packaging share the same disc ids as the previous release. Another problem is that on rare occasions disc ids can't be read. As far as cover scans, I have to agree that since pre-release cover art is only temporary and likely can be changed a lot on release date that it shouldn't matter that they were first. Whatever gets contributed for the actual release artwork first is what gets in. I would like to see an option for multiple artwork being attached to each profile and users can have the option to download what artwork they want at a prompt. | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
I would like to see an option for multiple artwork being attached to each profile and users can have the option to download what artwork they want at a prompt. I agree. Solves this problem and that of re-release covers. |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Another problem is that on rare occasions disc ids can't be read. Not so rare. It happens with certain copy protected DVDs. And what about BDs, where not everybody has a drive in the PC? Anyway, pre-release information is useful, and according to the rules there should be no cast/crew (or maybe just some main actors), so also no confusion later. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | By definition, what is in the profile now, is pre-release art.
The Cover that is in there, even if it were to remain Eric, is not the actual cover scans. There are differences between the pre-release and the actual cover.
Even though, it is not written in the rules, it has been a long standing agreement (to prevent arguments like this), that the first actual cover scan, is the cover scan that should remain.
Since Magneto was the first "actual" cover scan to be included, that should stay.
As far as pre-release profiles, I do see a need for them, but outside of very basic information (pre-release art, release date, release studio, media type, and maybe edition), the rest of the info should be disallowed until actual release date.
MHO
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