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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think today would be a good day to pull out my DVD of Fahrenheit 9/11 .. Thankyou Michael Moore .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I think today would be a good day to pull out my DVD of Fahrenheit 9/11 .. Thankyou Michael Moore .. Most of it is true information spun into a ficticious story. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have a few I could watch today... Out of the 3 below which is must see? I never seen either one of them yet. Fahrenheit 9/11 Region 1 Released: 10/5/2004 Anamorphic 1.78 World Trade Center Region 1 Released: 12/12/2006 Pan & Scan 1.33 DC 9/11: Time of Crisis Region 1 Released: 9/7/2004 Widescreen 1.85 | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I prefer to reflect on history without the bias of emotion. So today is a day I will (unsuccessfully) attempt to avoid 9/11 news, coverage, documentaries, services, etc. Tomorrow will be a better day, just as the day after a funeral is a better day. I am at heart a pessimist, so I find great joy when I think of positive things rather than the evil reactions to an evil act. I enjoy imagining the possibility of the nobility of mankind rather than the sadness we can cause. We humans are one people, one race of beings who divide ourselves by forms of tribalism. "I protect me, I protect my family, I protect my community, I protect my nation," and as I do so, I insure no one's survival. I need to be a brother to all mankind.
Thank you for letting me vent my feelings.
I prefer a handshake accompanied by an honest smile. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I have a few I could watch today... Out of the 3 below which is must see? I never seen either one of them yet. I guess it depends on what you really want. The first and third are propaganda films...one leaning left, the other leaning right. 'World Trade Center' is probably your best bet as it tries to honor the victims. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
The first and third are propaganda films...one leaning left, the other leaning right. 'World Trade Center' is probably your best bet as it tries to honor the victims. I haven't seen the third film, and the second film is an Oliver Stone 'Hollywood' styled movie/film...(fictionalized story script ),, BUT Michael Moore's film is ... Mostly TV footage along with direct interviews with the actual people who were there ... I don't see that as biased .. The entire 30 minutes opening of Fahrenheit 911 is all TV footage taken from every major News organizations that Moore culled and redited for time and he does tell a very convincing understanding of the Bush family and the Saudi's .. (and I roll my eyes every time when George W. tries to explain something ...) But I want to go on record right now and not turn this post into something that can get out of Hand real quick .. I'm just saying if you bought the DVD's ( for Pete) and never seen any of them and are asking directions for which one to see first . .at Least watch the first half hour of Moore's Documentary .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
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The first and third are propaganda films...one leaning left, the other leaning right. 'World Trade Center' is probably your best bet as it tries to honor the victims.
I haven't seen the third film, and the second film is an Oliver Stone 'Hollywood' styled movie/film...(fictionalized story script ),, BUT Michael Moore's film is ... Mostly TV footage along with direct interviews with the actual people who were there ... I don't see that as biased ..
The entire 30 minutes opening of Fahrenheit 911 is all TV footage taken from every major News organizations that Moore culled and redited for time and he does tell a very convincing understanding of the Bush family and the Saudi's .. (and I roll my eyes every time when George W. tries to explain something ...)
But I want to go on record right now and not turn this post into something that can get out of Hand real quick ..
I'm just saying if you bought the DVD's ( for Pete) and never seen any of them and are asking directions for which one to see first . .at Least watch the first half hour of Moore's Documentary .. He only tells one side of the story. The people he interviews, the questions asked and the TV footage used, were designed to paint a specific picture. Moore had and agenda and that agenda was, in his own words, to "make a movie suggesting the president of the United States is a war criminal." If that isn't biased, I don't know what is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | If I get the chance to watch a movie today... sounds like World Trade Center would be the one I would want to watch. A movie based on the events. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting widescreenforever:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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The first and third are propaganda films...one leaning left, the other leaning right. 'World Trade Center' is probably your best bet as it tries to honor the victims.
I haven't seen the third film, and the second film is an Oliver Stone 'Hollywood' styled movie/film...(fictionalized story script ),, BUT Michael Moore's film is ... Mostly TV footage along with direct interviews with the actual people who were there ... I don't see that as biased ..
The entire 30 minutes opening of Fahrenheit 911 is all TV footage taken from every major News organizations that Moore culled and redited for time and he does tell a very convincing understanding of the Bush family and the Saudi's .. (and I roll my eyes every time when George W. tries to explain something ...)
But I want to go on record right now and not turn this post into something that can get out of Hand real quick ..
I'm just saying if you bought the DVD's ( for Pete) and never seen any of them and are asking directions for which one to see first . .at Least watch the first half hour of Moore's Documentary ..
He only tells one side of the story. The people he interviews, the questions asked and the TV footage used, were designed to paint a specific picture. Moore had and agenda and that agenda was, in his own words, to "make a movie suggesting the president of the United States is a war criminal." If that isn't biased, I don't know what is. Well I would love to see the other side .. any recommends .. ??? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Honestly, if I hadn't looked at the forum, I wouldn't have remembered what the date was.
My thoughts early this morning were "got to get up and eat breakfast and get stuff moved away from kitchen sink before plumber gets here." This was followed by "yay! plumber's here" and later by "time to start dinner in the crock pot" and "did the plumber fix the underpinning back? should I check on that?" and "did I input my reviews for my meeting on Tuesday?"
Having seen the post and gone, oh, yeah, it's Sept. 11, my thoughts are:
1) right-wing religious thought has sure created some nutbags - in Islam and every other religion (my mom's boss was just threatened by one Friday, who told him that God had healed him and that the operation her boss had done on him - to remove his melanoma - was unnecessary and he hated him for it and was going to kill him)
2) it is a terrible tragedy that so many people died because of the misguided beliefs of so few | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,195 |
| | Posted: | | | | United 93 is still the only good film without some kind of private agenda that has been made on the subject imho, but I've seen it recently so have no desire to watch it again today. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | That if only airport security at the time was not akin to a bus station, then 3000 life's would not have been lost that day. And then two pointless wars that resulted in more loss of life.
The fact is it don't matter who done it. Any one with an idealogical view that was anti American. Had a box cutter and some flight experience, could have done it.
For 10 years the finger of blame has been pointed at radical Islam. When in fact the finger of blame should have been pointed at government. Who failed massively at protecting it's ppl that day. | | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirtualScot: Quote:
When in fact the finger of blame should have been pointed at government. Who failed massively at protecting it's ppl that day. Anyone who thinks the government can protect the people of a free country against every action taken by these kind of fanatics, is delusional! We have already given up way too many of our freedoms as a result of the tragedy of 9/11! | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
We have already given up way too many of our freedoms as a result of the tragedy of 9/11! If it wasn't 9/11, it would have been because of something else. The trend is the same in Europe, for various reasons. The Norwegian tragedy being the latest. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | I watched TV mini-series House of Saddam. No particular reason to watch it today. Just because all episodes came out last week and today I found 4 hours needed to watch it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Well I would love to see the other side .. any recommends .. ??? From what I have read, 'DC 9/11: Time of Crisis' seems to be the film that gives the right wing version. I am not aware of a film that gives a balanced account of the events following 9/11. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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