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Could someone explain all things about Child Profiles to me? :)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantThe Chosen One
Registered: August 15, 2007
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Well see title pretty much.

I have used/played around with it a long time ago. I haven't bought dvd's/blu-rays a lot recently and haven't added things in ages. I do remember finding them very vague.
I know they are like individual movies from sets but how do they work exactly and can I use them the best?


- What gets used from such profiles? All the information? For reports and such. Ratings, ticking labels and all that.

- With certain dvd's (double disc or double play I guess) it also asks to download child profiles. If I select yes are they always empty of all information? And if I don't want them can I set that somewhere? Because they do autodownload (ask to ofc.) everytime you autoupdate the list.

I know I am (a bit) vague but I have a hard time formulating my exact question(s) (further) so if anyone can say something/anything I would be gratefull.

I just know I find them very annoying from time to time and I can't really explain it. 

Wheeeee. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
Registered: March 13, 2007
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The simplest boxset is a TV Series. The parent profile holds all information. Child profiles are allowed, where you create a profile per disc. That profile holds all information of the episodes found on the disc.
All child profiles are linked to the parent (boxset profile).

Another type of boxset is multiple movies packaged into a boxset. A disc with 2 movies on the same side, is per exception not a boxset.
Here the parent profile holds only minimal information.
- Boxset title
- Production year of oldest movie
- Combined runtime of all movies
- Rating
- If the boxset has an overview, it should be included as well.
- Scans of the boxset

Link all child profiles to the parent boxset. Every child profile holds all info of it's respective movie. So you would profile it as a regular profile. The scans of the child profile are identical to that of the boxset, unless each movie is packaged individually. Then you add the individual artwork.

Hope this helps.
Chris
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Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
Registered: March 13, 2007
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The best way to get aa hang of parent/child profile is to look at some them. You can down load the in the wish list and easily remove them after you've looked at them. Sorry they're R1.

Examples
Different movies in a box set
The Actuality Dramas of Allan King UPC 715515064217

Same movies
Das Boot UPC 043396379688

TV series on Blu-ray
Glee: The Complete First Season UPC 024543695882
this has the discs ids filled and credits in the parent, I don't usually do this, and it isn't necessary to even have child profiles maybe this why this profile does because the original contributor did it that way and somebody else added the child profiles later..

Movie blu-ray combo pack
Of Gods and Men UPC 043396380967
the Blu-ray as  the parent.
the dvd as a child
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
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BTW
I've set up a set of tags to keep track of the Parent/child profiles
I have labeled them
Biox Set
and under the Box Set tag I have
- Child (9981)
- Parent Level 1 (6599)
- Parent Level 2 (163)
12538 of 16550 profiles are tagged like this.

Since I have some Box Set of Box Sets.
Example
The Complete set for TV series for The Six Million Dollar Man: The Complete Collection UPC 610583413595 is Parent Level 1
The Six Million Dollar Man: Season 1,  2, 3, 4 & 5 are tagged Parent Level 2 (they have their own UPCs) and their children asr tagged as child
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAndrew S. Kojnok
Registered: July 15, 2007
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I have to admit to being at least as confused as the OP. Leaving movies out of it for now, let's just talk about TV shows. I've seen some seasons of the same show, some with child profiles which have the Disc ID instead of a UPC, some which have discs identified by ID with no children, and some with no children OR discs. Which is the correct way, or does it come down to individual preference? I'd at least like my database to be consistent, but which way is best?

If it should be using children, would I need to delete the disks from the parent or can you use the same ID in both places? (I think I've noticed that when you insert a disc while Profiler is running, it will select the profile that contains that disc, unless it doesn't recognize it.)

Thanks for ANY help here.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
Registered: March 15, 2007
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I have to admit to being at least as confused as the OP. Leaving movies out of it for now, let's just talk about TV shows. (...) Which is the correct way, or does it come down to individual preference? I'd at least like my database to be consistent, but which way is best?

If it should be using children, would I need to delete the disks from the parent or can you use the same ID in both places? (I think I've noticed that when you insert a disc while Profiler is running, it will select the profile that contains that disc, unless it doesn't recognize it.)

Thanks for ANY help here.

I could be wrong but it's a question of personal preference. A TV season can be submited two-way :

1. Using the UPC to contribute the set and place the info in it with no individual disc (it's how I do it),
2. Using the UPC to create an empty set and contributing the individual dvd by disc id with all the info for them,
3. If you want to be even more precise you can do a manual profile for each episode. Of course those aren't contribuable.

So 1 and 2 are good. DVDP will select the season if you have created your profile like the first option and the individual disc if you did use the second way.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMithi
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I'd at least like my database to be consistent, but which way is best?

That's for you to decide, as Jimmy said: It's pretty much a matter of preference.

As the contribution rules say: the main profile (Season) has to contain all Information. If and how deep you go in is up to you.

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If it should be using children, would I need to delete the disks from the parent or can you use the same ID in both places? (I think I've noticed that when you insert a disc while Profiler is running, it will select the profile that contains that disc, unless it doesn't recognize it.)

You don't have to, but if the behavior of DVD Profiler upon inserting a disk isn't to your liking you can.

I for one go to disc-level, mainly because of "watched". I never seen a whole season of a series in one day so it seems neater to mark the discs. After I watched the whole season I mark the season watched on "date of purchase" for filtering purposes.

cya, Mithi
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAndrew S. Kojnok
Registered: July 15, 2007
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I have another related question.

I downloaded a profile for a boxset that I do NOT own, to get the cover information and other details. What I would like to do with that profile now is to replace the UPC/EAN of the actual boxset with the dummy information of Manual DVD #22. I think I saw how to do that somewhere, but my search always times out.

Two questions:
1) IS it possible to do that?
2) Am I doing something stoopid in my search attempts? I don't know if I've ever gotten a result or if I always get an error. I'm going to go search for help on search techniques now.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Andy
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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1) IS it possible to do that?

Not quite sure if I got correctly what you wish to do. Is it:
a) Copy the data from one profile to another
b) Change the UPC of a profile in your collection

For a)
Open the profile editor of the source profile
Open the "Cast"-tab
Rightclick into the Cast-list and choose "Copy"
Close the source profile
Open the profile editor of the target profile
Open "Cast"-tab
Rightclick into the Cast list and choose "Paste"
Proceed in the same way for the Crew-listings

For b)
DVDProfiler menu "DVD -> Change UPC ..."


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2) Am I doing something stoopid in my search attempts? I don't know if I've ever gotten a result or if I always get an error. I'm going to go search for help on search techniques now.

No you are not too stupid to use the "Search"-function. It is notorious for time-outs.
Experienced users are usng the advanced search of Google (add "site:invelos.com" without inverted commas to your query).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAndrew S. Kojnok
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Thanks Silence.
What I was trying to accomplish was a fast and dirty way of copying a profile. I thought I would download a valid profile, and then change the UPC to the generic manual code. I wanted to keep all the existing information and images, and just change the UPC.

I've changed UPCs before, when I ordered one version of a DVD and got a different one, but I don't think I ever changed it to a Manual DVD. The program comes back and tells me that the UPC entered is invalid and will not save the change.

Thanks for the suggestion about using google's search (and for the reassurance about my searching abilities) Is the forum one of Ken's creations or was it from a team? (it lookd like a home built version)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Thanks Silence.
What I was trying to accomplish was a fast and dirty way of copying a profile. I thought I would download a valid profile, and then change the UPC to the generic manual code.


Ahh,
never tried this, but I'm quite sure it isn't possible.

So you'd have to do it the other way round:
- Create an empty manual profile first
- Download a profile with the data you need
- Copy the data as suggested above
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAndrew S. Kojnok
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Thanks again for your help Silence! It took three pages of reading in the google search results, but I did turn up this little bit of information That was eXACTly what I wanted to do.

Thanks again to FredLooks for showing me how to post a link! :-)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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if you want to copy all the profile details from one profile to another, using the dvd menu - select COPY (when the source DVD profile is selected).

and on the destination profile select PASTE.

You then get a menu of all the items you can paste into the new profile (and one of the options is everything).

e.g. tHis is quicker that copying cast & crew separately.

I'm at work so of course don't have any access to the program so I can see the exact wording - but what I've said should be sufficient information.
Paul
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