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Is "Music arranged by" a valid composer credit....
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhuskersports
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when a Composer is already credited?  I submitted a contribution for Rango removing the 9 "Music arranged by" credits because Hans Zimmer is already credited as Composer and have 2 NO votes so far?  Am I wrong?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortweeter
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Your change is correct.  Arrangers don't write the music/score, they just re-write it for specific purposes.

If there is a Composer then by definition the arrangers didn't create something new.

(And even if there wasn't a credited Composer, the Arrangers couldn't be credited, because there work was not to create Original Music)
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Tweeter is correct music arrangement is existing music that was adapted for performance by a particular set of voices or instruments so, by definition, not a composer.
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Agree with Tweeter and the E.T.
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Remove is correct imho.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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I also agree that removing them is correct.
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Add another agreement. "Arranged By" has zero to do with composition. The Nay Sayers on your contribution are absolutely in the wrong.
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I agree as well.  An arranger does not a composer make.
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Quoting 8ballMax:
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Add another agreement. "Arranged By" has zero to do with composition. The Nay Sayers on your contribution are absolutely in the wrong.


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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You are correct. Be sure and edit your contribution, I would point out this unanimous (!) thread, so that the screeners don't mistakenly accept the "no" votes as correct.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Agreed as well.  Back in the golden age there are tons of arrangement credits, without a proper composer.  You also run into a lot of musical direction credits, which equates to the same thing.  Back then, the studios were grinding out 2-3 films a week and frequently shuffled stock music cues for standard scenes.  Obviously, the studios employed composers for their bigger productions, but they also had some composers on staff who's regular job was to build the library of cues for the rest of the productions.
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