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Besides our focus on accuracy, what's the short list of things that distinguishes our database from IMDB? What can you learn from our database that is not available at imdb.com?

IMDB has a lot of box office info that by its nature is not available in the credits, but they do include things like film soundtrack credits, trivia, quotes, technical film details and other things that we have decided not to include. I'm sure we have expressed a rational for some of the things we've excluded from the database and I'd love to read the tread on that.

I think our "buy, contribute and vote" model is probably less open to abuse than that of IMDB where it seems that people or companies can enter pretty much whatever they want. I'd bet that more than one job seeker has chosen to fatten their resume at the expense of IMDB accuracy. I think that would be harder to get away with here.

A thread about the "100 Greatest Goofs" from IMDB would make for some pretty humorous reading, I think, and would remind us all why we focus on accuracy versus every last bit of info that is available from sources like IMDB.
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Only bragging  rights is IMDB  is MOVIE data base .. and  DVD profiler is DVD (and menu contents) Data base ..  IMDB  breaks down everything connected to the movie including filming locations and aspect film ratios .. etc ..,  DVD Invelos software breaks out Overview packaging and OAR of the DVD such as 1:78  rather than the movie prints of 1:85 .. many items  that others may offer here ...
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What can you learn from our database that is not available at imdb.com?

We have compiled information about the 70 releases of Psycho, to give you an example.
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IMDB tends to reflect user generated content for the cast that's at the whim of the user. DVDP focuses on matching the DVD itself.  IMDB also tends to seed their data with bad data to catch data thieves.
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IMDB also charges annual fees for apps to legally utilize their data.
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IMDB does have data on DVDs, but it's pretty shallow compared to what we have.
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what's the short list of things that distinguishes our database from IMDB?


IMDb is a database on movies, with very few sorting, filtering functions, with no possibilities to make reports. But generally data is of high quality, even if we can find some errors.

Dvdprofiler is a program that allows to sort, filter, search and make reports on movies you own, but only if you use personal data. If you use Invelos online database data, you'll just get a huge collection of errors, with no linking on movies with Zhang Ziyi and movies with Ziyi Zhang (just an example...), and movies that do not have the same title, or cast, or crew, depending of the contributed editions.
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A thread about the "100 Greatest Goofs" from IMDB would make for some pretty humorous reading, I think, and would remind us all why we focus on accuracy


I think we have no lesson to give to IMDb. Our "accuracy" invented hundreds of names that exist nowhere except in Invelos database, and we even can find in Invelos database overviews on the cover that do not match with the movie on the disc. As accuracy for Invelos rules is copying existing errors, or even creating errors, the result for the database is a total mess.
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A thread about the "100 Greatest Goofs" from IMDB would make for some pretty humorous reading, I think, and would remind us all why we focus on accuracy


I think we have no lesson to give to IMDb. Our "accuracy" invented hundreds of names that exist nowhere except in Invelos database, and we even can find in Invelos database overviews on the cover that do not match with the movie on the disc. As accuracy for Invelos rules is copying existing errors, or even creating errors, the result for the database is a total mess.


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Oh, shut up you twat!

I gave you a for giving the forum such a nice atmosphere. 
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Oh, shut up you twat!

I gave you a for giving the forum such a nice atmosphere. 


And I gave you a for being, well, just for being you .
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I see that you are also looking for a , naughty jealous boy...
Done ! 

PS Your baby Boo-Hoo is just Berak's avatar...     
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Oh, shut up you twat!

I gave you a for giving the forum such a nice atmosphere. 


Twat is a funny sounding word, making this all rather humorous.
Now let's turn the ship back on track.
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If you use Invelos online database data, you'll just get a huge collection of errors,

This is, of course, a very subjective statement.  What is an error to you, may not be an error to somebody else.
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I believe surfeur51 has a reasonable point. I disagree with part of it, and agree with him that we ought to be able to correct spelling errors on overviews, but also have watched these corrections ping pong back and forth forever. There is no perfect solution. And I believe these ideas are worth a reasonable discussion.

But not in the General Discussion forum, and (mercy me) doesn't surfeur51 ever have a second point? I feel like he comes here only to make the one point and he comes here to do this at least once a week. He usually confines himself to the Contributors forum (one place where this discussion properly belongs), which is one of two reasons why I tend to avoid that forum.

I think a monthly update or perhaps every three months would make his point adequately. I doubt he will ever win for many reasons, but his point is reasonable even if his English language diplomacy is not.

This database covers DVD and other video discs (Blu-ray, HD-VD, etc.). IMDb was for film and now includes TV. I think the All-Movie Guide is more accurate, but that's just from my experience. This remains the most accurate and complete database for our discs we own.

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agree with him that we ought to be able to correct spelling errors on overviews

I totally disagree with this approach. To the best of my belief we shouldn't alter actual data.
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