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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRobAGD
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http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&ProfileUPC=704400094804

When I submitted the crew, I stated from DVD.

Kind of silly to reject because " You need to state if you got then from the dvd credits" ? where else on the DVD would I have gotten them ?

-R
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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Beyond silly, but wording counts it seems.
I had similar declines back in the day. Resubmitting them with different wording as always worked and all got approved eventually. Don't have thin skin, some voters are on crack, sometimes the screeners reject fine info or hit the wrong button, shiitake mushroom happens.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Just for a heads up... Looking at the link you provided... not sure how much better you will get with your new notes... as you still not saying that they are coming from the actual credits. Basically saying the same thing (but with a little attitude this time) as the last time. If they didn't accept it the first time... not sure why you would think they would accept it this time with the new notes. But who knows... maybe you will get a different screener that will accept it.

Though I don't know why you don't play it safe and just give them the complete info... not hard to make your notes say something like...

English Cast from film credits per Rules

Simple... to the point.... they are happy... it gets approved so you are happy. It is the kind of notes I always write... and I can't remember the last time I got a decline.

No insult meant here... just food for thought.
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I'd state that you got them from the "end credits from the DVD".
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRobAGD
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Dr K the point is, when someone says they got the info from the DVD, where else would they get it besides the film credits?

Being nit picky about something like that is a quick way to get peopel to stop contributing.

I had one rejected when I simply put that I added cast via DVD crossed check from IMDB for accuracy dude to poor image quality in the credits.

Not that I GOT the info from IMDB but that I cross referenced it.

Contributing stuff any more is taking way more time than I am really willing to donate anymore, which is a shame.

-R
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Well... I can see where the confusion could be with those notes. Seen it come up here on the forum before. Could be the contributor used the case instead of the credits... could be they used a page of the menu. I seen both situations come up before. So just saying from the DVD don't necessarily mean they came from the credits.

So it is possible that the screener was going from past experience that "from the DVD" is not enough for them to approve it.
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And you could try without the empty divider.
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I don't have the disc to see what is being updated. But I do agree there. There shouldn't be any empty dividers used in the credits. I remember this being discussed on the forum before... and while I don't remember if there was anything said about it from Invelos... I believe most members agreed they shouldn't be used.
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Quoting DigitalGhost:
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And you could try without the empty divider.

Indeed.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRobAGD
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and an Empty divider is the end of the world, vs getting cast info into the profile.

That ok I pulled it. Won't bother submitting any more profiles.

Problem solved

-R
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and an Empty divider is the end of the world, vs getting cast info into the profile.

That ok I pulled it. Won't bother submitting any more profiles.

Problem solved

-R

Rob, you have been a member long enough to know how things work Dont give up contributing... just recently i had someone vote no on something where i was simply adding to the already exsisting profile stating "i also need to add this and that..." insane.    Hang in there guy!!
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and an Empty divider is the end of the world, vs getting cast info into the profile.

That ok I pulled it. Won't bother submitting any more profiles.

Problem solved

-R


I'm sorry you are taking it so personally, instead of figuring out what was in error and resubmitting. 

Whether it was improper contribution notes, improper cast entry, divider usage or what ever.  There is a protocol, and the sooner you realize that, the easier it will be to make contributions.  There are 100's of people that make accepted contributions all the time, so it is not that difficult.

Your contribution Notes  "added english voice cast from DVD"

another way  "Added English voice cast from DVD Credits, per rules"

As long as there isn't anything else wrong, that should get accepted (barring an error from the screener, which has been know to happen)

If you decide to stop contributing, that will be your choice, and even though we may not get the additional updates that you may provide, we will have to live with it.

Charlie
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRobAGD
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Actually I am not taking it personally.

This kind of stuff just is ignorant.

I totally understand that if it isn't stated then decline.

If you make the rules to stringent where you are declining good data because someone isn't adding "Added cast form DVD cast listing" vs "From the DVD"

It's narrow minded.

-R
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It's not narrow minded. "From the DVD" could be interpreted to mean "From the DVD version" as often times releases are different on DVD than they were theatrically (or on TV, etc.).

Just simply say, "Added English voice cast from film credits per Rules". What's the problem with doing that?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
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Someone could also say "added cast per DVD end credits" when they actually added them from IMDB. It's a lie, but at least the notes look the way that the community or screeners want them to look so that the submission may have a better chance of being accepted since I have seen many times that votes are cast in good faith rather than the voter actually taking the decent amount of time required to pull out the DVD, pop it in a player, and verify the data.

If everything was always rechecked by other members to verify that the changes are correct, the notes could read "bread pudding" for all I care. (Joking, of course.)


I'm with Rob on this one, but I also see this as another typical issue with "the rules" verses what we have simply grown accustom to.  The rules say "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only." Why must you then say "I took them from the film credits only"?  Either you did so or you did it wrong... no matter what you put in your notes.
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For the record: I thoroughly hate the "per rules" addendum - I can't help feeling that's utterly ridiculous and superfluous, as all contributions are supposed to be "per the rules", obviously. It feels a bit like strolling through the park and constantly pointing out to people that you're doing so "per rules" - because you're not violating those "rules" by whacking innocent bystanders on the head or anything like that... If you're not whacking innocent bystanders on the head, that's great, but there's really no need to keep pointing that out to everyone. It's that ridiculous, IMHO, and the fact that I'm seeing people abusing the "per rules addendum" to add heaps of IMDb-mined data and other blatantly incorrect stuff doesn't help either. Apparently, they too have learned that when you include "per rules", it's all good... 

All in all, I'm perfectly okay with stating that I took something from the credits, but I try to avoid the stupid/redundant "per rules" tag.
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