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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | I recently saw someone adding a birth year to the well-known American actress Elizabeth Banks, citing a British actress with the same name as the reason. However, that's only valid if the common name of that British actress is indeed Elizabeth Banks. But instead, her common name at this time is Liz Banks, meaning we distinguish between them by using their common names instead of by birth year. As of yet, the British Ms. Banks appears only five times in our database: LIZ BANKS ( 3 confirmed credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by T!M) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') (confirmed by VirusPil) - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) (confirmed by huskersports) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 confirmed credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by T!M) So as it stands, the common name for this British actress is Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Graveworm: Quote: She is also credited as Elizabeth in Lovejoy Season 6 E10 but that is still awaiting a full profile Note that when this has been Profiled Elizabeth Banks will be the common name and the BY for the American Elizabeth Banks will be VALIDLIZ BANKS ( 3 confirmed credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by Tim) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') (confirmed by VirusPil) - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) (confirmed by huskersports) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 Confirmed credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by Tim) Confirmed Credits (DVD in Database but cast not yet profiled) Lovejoy Season 6 Ep10 = Elizabeth Banks (confirmed by Graveworm) | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: Bad Girls is not in the database when checking CLT Yes it is. It is incorrectly listed under "Elizabeth" (IMDb-mined data, as usual), and I've submitted a correction. As such, it'll switch to "Liz" in a few days. Quote: and the Liz in Blue Murder appears to be a different Liz to this one I don't believe it is - instead, I'm very much convinced it's the same Liz Banks. Also, there's no need to count that one 'Blue Murder' credit, in one and the same episode ('Desperate Measures'), twice. All in all, I remain convinced that the common name for this British actress is Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: I'm very much convinced it's the same Liz Banks.. Then please provide documentation to support this assertion or remove it from the list | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: Quoting T!M:
Quote: I'm very much convinced it's the same Liz Banks.. Then please provide documentation to support this assertion Better yet: why don't you provide documentation to support your assumption that she's not! You know as well as I do that it's hard extremely to prove things like this when we're not talking about major stars. But all the signs point towards this being the same Liz Banks: it's a British actress, it's smallish British TV-show, the credit falls in a period that she's still active, and in a period where she's doing similar smallish TV-roles. Also, the IMDb-page you've referred to shows that she's exclusively going by "Liz" the last few years. Again: all signs point in this direction. You, on the other hand, have nothing substantial to claim that it isn't the same Liz Banks - just the fact that her IMDb-page omits the credit because nobody got around to adding the full cast for that season of 'Blue Murder' yet. |
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| Posted: | | | | The New Statesman = Elizabeth Banks as Nun |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Better yet: why don't you provide documentation to support your assumption. See the IMDb link YOU provided | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Posted: | | | | LIZ BANKS (1 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3)
ELIZABETH BANKS (2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (Confirmed) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: See the IMDb link YOU provided As I just explained - since when are we taking IMDb's errors as holy? Because that's all this is... Updated totals: LIZ BANKS ( 3 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) So the common name for this British actress seems to be Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
LIZ BANKS (1 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3)
ELIZABETH BANKS (2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) EFT your the one who added the IMDb link as proof, didn't you? |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | No, I added the IMDb-link as a reference. As a reference, IMDb is helpful, but generally, we try to make our data a little bit better than the mess that is IMDb. This is an attempt at doing just that. As always, though, correcting IMDb-errors here tends to get some people annoyed, and this seems to be no different. Look, you know you're in the wrong. If necessary, I'll track down a copy of 'Blue Murder', I'll visually confirm that it's the same Liz Banks, and that'll be the end of it. There's really no reason to get so upset - I'm sure you'll agree that the outcome is actually pretty nice, since it means we won't have to add a birth year to nearly a thousand of Elizabeth Banks' profiles... LIZ BANKS ( 3 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) So the common name for this British actress seems to be Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Posted: | | | | LIZ BANKS (1 confirmed credit): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by Tim)
ELIZABETH BANKS (2 Confirmed credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by Tim)
Unconfirmed Credits - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') <No proof provided that this is the same Liz banks> - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Wrong again. LIZ BANKS ( 3 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: So the common name for this British actress seems to be Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. Please note Tim's indecisiveness on this issue | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Posted: | | | | LIZ BANKS (1 confirmed credit): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by Tim)
ELIZABETH BANKS (2 Confirmed credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by Tim)
Unconfirmed Credits - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') <No proof provided that this is the same Liz banks> - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: Quoting T!M:
Quote: So the common name for this British actress seems to be Liz Banks, ensuring that we don't need to add a birth year to the American Elizabeth Banks. Please not Tim's indecisiveness on this issue I'd like to see the 'Blue Murder' and 'Vincent' credits confirmed, that's all. I don't doubt them, but I'd still like to see them confirmed as "Liz". Other than that, I have no uncertainty at all. LIZ BANKS ( 3 credits): - Bad Girls: Series Seven (ep. #12) (confirmed by me) - Blue Murder (ep. 'Desperate Measures') - Vincent: Series 2 (ep. #3) ELIZABETH BANKS ( 2 credits): - The New Statesman (ep. 'Back from the Mort') (confirmed by ninehours) - Son of the Pink Panther (confirmed by me) |
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