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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | I find frequently that for no comprehensible reason, the entire cast has turned upside down, with the star at the bottom and uncredited players at the top. This is particularly irritating when the cast list includes dividers for episodes.
Is there any simple way to turn a cast back rightside up other than refreshing the profile? |
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| Registered: September 27, 2010 |  Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, this irritates me no-end! I have to spend far 'too' much time moving the main characters back up the cast list, to where they should be. Though I haven't a 'technical' solution to resolve your issue, I would request Invelos/users compiled these lists as they should be, 'main cast' at the top. In most Profiles this is done OK, but too many slip though unfortunately ^^ |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting karlpov: Quote:
Is there any simple way to turn a cast back rightside up other than refreshing the profile? Did you try a database-repair? Seems to be the universal remedy nowadays. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think his problem has anything to do with how they are compiled. But if you would look at the Rules you will see how it should be is not necessarily main cast at the top... but for it to match the film credits no matter how they choose to do it in the credits. Can be main cast first... can be in order of appearance... or any other way they choose to do it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote:
Quoting karlpov:
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Is there any simple way to turn a cast back rightside up other than refreshing the profile?
Did you try a database-repair? Seems to be the universal remedy nowadays.
cya, Mithi If this doesn't work... I would think it is correct on the online... so couldn't you just update the profile from online to fix it? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 27, 2010 | | Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I don't think his problem has anything to do with how they are compiled. Good point about 'order of appearance', which some studios choose as the 'credits' format on their films. This format is really not necessary to maintain within DVDP, I would suggest. It's annoying to find Bruce Willis half-way down the credits, just because it entered the film 10 minutes in! I admit, I did realise this users problem was not contribution based, but more a technical glitch. I just took the opportunity to 'sound-off' about a gripe I have concerning the cast order in some Profiles occasionally. Peace Out! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | But it is necessary to maintain it in profiler... as the rules tells us to. Rules Quote: Quote:
For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits". The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.
For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. See the sentence from the rules I put in bold. And yes there is those of us that agree with that rule. I know I always want my profiler credits to match the film credits exactly. I want the cast name to show as credited. I want the role name to match the credits. And I want the order to match the credits. I personally would always vote no to anything but matching the credits exactly. So no... this is a rule I would never want to see changed. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Blade185: Quote:
Good point about 'order of appearance', which some studios choose as the 'credits' format on their films. This format is really not necessary to maintain within DVDP, I would suggest. It's annoying to find Bruce Willis half-way down the credits, just because it entered the film 10 minutes in!
the problem with trying to use any other order than 'as per the credits' is that anything else would be a personal preference - and that could keep changing as each person decided they preferred their 'special' order. personally I amend the order in the profiles to that which I prefer (but of course I keep that local( | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
the problem with trying to use any other order than 'as per the credits' is that anything else would be a personal preference - and that could keep changing as each person decided they preferred their 'special' order.
personally I amend the order in the profiles to that which I prefer (but of course I keep that local( I do something similar, but I use dividers. I enter the cast, as credited, contribute, then create a divider...'Cast in Order of Appearance' or something similar...and enter the cast from the opening credits above that. This allows me to have both main stars at the top and the cast in end credit order. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | A great many oif you seem to think that I am just objecting to the way the cast is arranged in the main database. No. I myself put together the cast for "The Witches", an Italian anthology of stories with Silvana Magnano starring in each. I used the Forbidden Source so I didn't contribute to IMDB. I changed each listing from role followed by title of segment in the anthology, deleting the segment titles and arranging the cast under dividers with those titles.
I found the entire cast list switched upside down a few days later. This is evidently something which is happening in Profiler. The names were now above, not below, each segment title, which makes no sense. It's some sort of technical glitch.
This is not the only instance of this happening. For many I can change to cast listing back how it was by making a profile refresh. In this instance, of course, the profile in the Profiler database had no cast listing.
I'd like to know whether there is something I can do to stop this, something I can stop doing which might be causing this, or simply a way to re-switch the cast list rightside up. |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Did you lock the cast list after putting them in your special preferred order? | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've never seen this happening, and I have no idea what could be causing it. Like Mithi suggested, your best option seems to be to try running the "Database Repair Utility". |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | karl:
I have never seen this before either. Assuming that the data was correct in being listed backwards, which based upon your description of the (uncredited) data, seems unlikely. I would only ask this one question was the cast done Broadway style, like Mame, for example, where all the players are introduced prior to the main stars, from our point of view in reverse order. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | Again, I entered all the cast information. This has nothing to do with how it was presented onscreen or anywhere else but the Forbidden Source.
I tried locking the cast. I just found the cast had been upended again. This followed a "repair" which happened due to my apparently forgetting to close DVD Profiler before turning off my machine. I got a warning about this before the machine went off and I thought I succeeded in exiting DVDP, but I got a warning the next time I tried to bring DVDP up that I should do a repair. And following this "repair" I get the upside-down cast. |
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