With the new headshots database, I found many comparisons with totally different persons. In fact, for actors without BY, I was proposed other actors with same name, and also without BY. Most of them are not yet listed in the BY contribution thread.

I solved the problem locally with fake BY (9001, 9002,...) but with next headshots database, those fake BY will not match with other users' local databases.

We could open a pinned thread with fake BYs, with name, one movie, and one headshot if exists. Every people wanting to share headshots would use those BY, so that they can benefit from updates. Then  I could open a shared database on my images site so that it could be easy to find  who is who. And when Ken will update the common name system, this database could help the conversion.

Ideas ?

Examples :

Alan Ladd, 9001, "Frantic"  :

Guy Williams, 9001, "Sherlock Holmes", (no headshot)

Jamie Anderson, 9001, "Catch me if you can" :

Those are different from more known Alan Ladd 1913, Guy Williams 1924, and Jamie Anderson 1989, but without fake BY, you will automatically get Zorro's Guy Williams playing in "Sherlock Holmes".

Quoting VirusPil:

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And I think this could be the major problem: I want to have my system.

I do not think that is a problem. Any system for fake BY can work, and it is so easy to implement that I really do not care which would be chosen. I evaluate 10 minutes to correct all the 60 fake BY in my database, and about 50 hours to build the shared online database, so the problem is really not there.

About the pole answers, I understand that users answer "1" or "3". I think that users who answer "2" have not seen the problem and are not aware that they probably got  in their local many headshots not corresponding to the actor, without seeing it.

I explain. You have "Frantic" in your collection, and no headshot for Alan Ladd. Then you download the headshots V6 database, and get automatically a photo of Alan Ladd 1913-1964 for this 1988 movie... 

Finding a common system would save much time for all headshots lovers and would probably help future name system conversion. The best would be a proposal from Ken.

Quoting Staid S Barr:

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If an actor is credited in a certain database with a roman numeral of say XIV, the BY would be 9914, never to be confused with any real year.

This seems an excellent proposal. 

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I think one reason why the cast database has been the way that it has is the purposed avoidance of using a roman numeral system in the same way that IMDB does.

You are right, but you are speaking of contribution system. My proposal is only for local databases, as are headshots.

I'm all for fake BY's when needed, I got em all over my local as well and also noticed many errors from the last headshot DB. So many I refuse to even dl a newer one, as I've been filling my empty pictures here and there when I can. Plus I like a little nudity now and then, and some actress' look better topless.

I think I grasp your idea surfeur, kinda like the BY thread but with pictures to distigush same names right? All for it! +1

Quoting bigdaddyhorse:

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... also noticed many errors from the last headshot DB.

I took great pains to make sure no bad BY's were included in the HSDB, any BY not accepted by Invelos and not in the BY thread was removed.  One your DB has bad BY's in it, it's like a virus and restoring a purified HSDB doesn't get rid of them.

If you find bad BY's, can you make a note of it in the HSDB thread so it can be corrected for everyone?  You can also purify your local database using the same method I used for the HSDB.

FWIW, I think all my fake BY's locally are 9999, makes em easy to spot and no question what it means. It can always be changed or updated later if the real year surfaces.

Also, most errors I noticed were wrong headshots, maybe one or two BY's wrong if that, mostly wrong pictures. If I catch any errros from here out I will  report them, although I am starting from the last headshot DB.

Quoting surfeur51:

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Quoting VirusPil:

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And I think this could be the major problem: I want to have my system.

I do not think that is a problem. Any system for fake BY can work, and it is so easy to implement that I really do not care which would be chosen. I evaluate 10 minutes to correct all the 60 fake BY in my database, and about 50 hours to build the shared online database, so the problem is really not there.
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I personnaly use low 1000+x numbers for my local, lowest for the actor I think I have/will have the most in database, so DVDP chooses often the correct one without any change from me. So that was my thought why some will disagree because of the numbering.

After thinking a bit: The system how the fake BYs will be counted doesn't matter (as long as thy don't use my numbers) because I could leave them also as duplicates in my local and copy the HS to my prefered numbers.

Some multiple names have been also listed here:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=444787&PageNum=1