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Registered: May 11, 2007 | Posts: 249 |
| Posted: | | | | A contribution has been entered adding a disc ID for the b-side of a double sided disc. Am I right that this is not allowed in the rules: If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc.
I've already voted no, but I want to make sure my conclusion is correct. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,217 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting apltm: Quote: Am I right that this is not allowed in the rules: If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc. Depends on what exactly is on the b-side. If it is one movie split on both sides or movie on a-side and bonus features on b-side you are correct. If however there are two different movies on a and b the whole thing could (should?) be submitted as a box-set, Parent with UPC and both sides with Disc-IDs as Children. Read your post again, maybe I misunderstood your question, please provide a screenshot or UPC and locality of the profile in question. cya, Mithi | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki | | | Last edited: by Mithi |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Relative to the Rules a double-sided disc is considered a Box set and thus there should be a profile for each side. Your vote is incorrect.
"Box Sets" Containing More Than One Film
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:
* Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind. * Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases. * Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: May 11, 2007 | Posts: 249 |
| Posted: | | | | Just to clarify the profile in question is series one of a TV series (Yes Minister to be precise) and part of a Box set with the complete series. It has one disc ID with Episodes 1-8 as the description. The new contribution will change it in disc ID 1 with Episodes 1-4 as description, and disc ID 2 with Episodes 5-8 as description. | | | Last edited: by apltm |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | I have seen this many times when one side is fullscreen/P&S and the other widescreen. Since both sides contain the main feature, I believe this is correct, but now when I mention it I'm not sure anymore... | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Kino:
You are trying to raise a different issue. The Rule refers to to multiple titles on a single-sided disc, NOT the same movie in two different formats. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes, I see that is covered by the rule, but after re-reading the rules, I'm only more confused. It doesn't touch on the subject of tv series on double sided discs at all, and it talks about only using one disc description (funny since there are three description fields, I didn't think using only one was possible since there will always be at least 1 per disc + 1 per side), but nothing about not adding multiple disc IDs. Add this to another rule that could use a rewrite because I can't tell from reading it what is allowed or not. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,217 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting apltm: Quote: The new contribution will change it in disc ID 1 with Episodes 1-4 as description, and disc ID 2 with Episodes 5-8 as description. That sounds perfectly Okay to me, thats the very purpose of entering the DiscIDs for Side a and b. see e.g. the IDs for first season of "ER" cya, Mithi | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I may be confused here... but sounds like you are saying the 1 disc gets 2 completely different profiles? 1 profile for side A and one profile for side B? | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,217 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote: .. and it talks about only using one disc description (funny since there are three description fields, Yes, another instance where the Contribution Rules are simply out synch with what the Profiler can do. | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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Registered: May 11, 2007 | Posts: 249 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: Relative to the Rules a double-sided disc is considered a Box set and thus there should be a profile for each side. Your vote is incorrect.
"Box Sets" Containing More Than One Film
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:
* Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind. * Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases. * Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD. Doesn't your argument mean that the contribution would be invalid because disc IDs are not allowed in box sets? That would still mean a No vote, albeit for a different reason. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | If it is a TV Series it has to follow TV Series Rules... which means all info also remains in the parent profile as well. | | | Pete |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting apltm: Quote: A contribution has been entered adding a disc ID for the b-side of a double sided disc. Am I right that this is not allowed in the rules: If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc.
I've already voted no, but I want to make sure my conclusion is correct. If this was a single movie, you would enter both disc id's, with proper descriptions, into into the "Disc" section of the profile. If this is 2 different movies, you would create disc id profiles for each side, then add them as a boxset to the parent. TV series. you would add each side (since each side has a different disc ID), with proper descriptors to the disc section of the profile, and then, if you choose also add each side as a discid profile, then add it to the parent. Charlie |
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Registered: May 11, 2007 | Posts: 249 |
| Posted: | | | | OK, that's a clear answer, thank you. I've changed my vote. |
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