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| Registered: July 8, 2010 |  Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Someone as sent a contribution which changed the following cast credits (which is how it appears in the credits:- Lora Chio as Actor #3 Ivy Jones as Actor #4 Louise Stratten as Actor #5 Matthew Arkin as Actor #6 Michael Jean Dozier as Actor #7 Carly Hughes as Actor #8 Hallie Cooper Novack as Actor #9 Joseph Drago as Actor #10 to this Actors <- Group Divider Lora Chio Ivy Jones Louise Stratten Matthew Arkin Michael Jean Dozier Carly Hughes Hallie Cooper Novack Joseph Drago I voted no but now the user as resubmitted the change with new notes Quote:
Sure there can be used dividers where there is more than pne the same role name. Here there are eight castmembers with the same role name and now joined with this divider. Read the Invelos rules before you vote negative.
So was I right to vote no. I assumed this can't be a group divider for 2 reasons. First the role names are not the same because of the number and secondly, dividers can only be used if the credits have the role listed once followed by a list of names. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | You understand correctly. Individually numbered actors cannot be grouped with a divider. Individually credited actors cannot be grouped with a divider. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nowhere, in the rules, does it tell us we can create dividers when none exist in the credits. The contribution is incorrect. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,044 |
| | Posted: | | | | tweeter and TheMadMartain are correct, the contribution is wrong. Because of the number designation after "Actor" makes each one a unique roll.  Rory  | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Totally agree with everyone else. The person who submitted this obviously hasn't fully understood the use of dividers imo. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with the others as well. Should definitely be voted down. | | | | Pete |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Completely agree with the other. A NO-vote. | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | How does the contributor explain this?... Quote:
For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits". The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.
For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. If the contributor is using a divider (removing the individual role/number)... how does he explain breaking the rule for role names? As taking away the numbers it is no longer exactly as they are in the credits. Definitely a quick and easy no vote. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: July 8, 2010 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the help. I was almost certain I was right but the slightly rude new notes made me start to think I had missed something |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Indeed you were correct. The divider, in this case is a user invention not a part of the credits themselves. He is free to do this locally, but it is not contributable. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is one of my pet hates. People have been contributing group dividers where they feel they should go not where they are. This is why I've been taking to putting 'as seen in closing credits' or some such in the contribution notes, so people know I've got the information from the credits and haven't just assumed they must be needed. | | | | Last edited: by GreyHulk |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
This is one of my pet hates. People have been contributing group dividers where they feel they should go not where they are. This is why I've been taking to putting 'as seen in closing credits' or some such in the contribution notes, so people know I've got the information from the credits and haven't just assumed they must be needed. Great idea, Grey | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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