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Contribution Question for us in Switzerland
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSwissFilm
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Hello

A lot of Swiss, also me, buy there films in Germany at Amazon, as we do not have Amazon in Switzerland and we can buy them there for half or less of the price in shops in Switzerland. Now there are many films that are not in the database and then I fill out everything and contribute it. Now the film is market Switzerland when I look in iPhone under the EAN number also it is a German release. I did see the problem in contributions to vote. A German does ask to delete a contribution from a Swiss because of this, the film "Die Ja-Sager". He writes because it is a German release. I did vote no. So how is this problem handled. Must Germans contribute the same film again with same EAN so they have it as German release?

Hope my English is good enought to see the problem when we in Switzrland make contributions for film releases in Germany.

Thanks for a feedback,

Fritz
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If the same EAN is being used for Germany and Switzerland then, yes, they need to contribute using the German locality.
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I think what Fritz is talking about is a German release that was bought from Amazon Germany but from somebody in Switzerland, do I understand that right? In this case there should be only a German locality since it is a German release unless the Film is also released in Switzerland with the same UPC as the German release then there should also be one entry in the database for the Swiss Locality. But there needs to be an official Swiss release for the DVD/Blu-ray to be in the database with a Swiss locality.

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Hello Dirk

Yes, you understand it right. I am in Switzerland. I buy the German release in Germany at Amazon. Then as it is not in the database I do a contribution for this German release to have the collection complete and that everybody can profit of it. But, as I am in Switerland with my DVD Profiler it tells then it is a Switzerland release when you look at the film. This happens with all the films I contribute, also I buy all of them the German release, rarely I buy a special film in Switzerland. Think this comes from DVD Profiler that knows I am in Switzerland.

What you tell would then mean I cannot contribute such films also I own over 2'000 and like to be complete, not only localy.

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Hi,

you can change the locality of any of your profiles by selecting it and then selecting DVD->Change Locality.
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Thanks for clearing that up.  Seems like Profiler is selecting locality Switzerland when you create the profiles.  To correct this, so that you can contribute, simply do what DJ reccomended.
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Fritz, you can contribute all those profiles but if it's a German release the locality needs to be changed to Germany and you can do that as DJ described very easily. Some of those profiles might already be in the database under the German locality. It doesn't matter where a DVD is bought, it matters in which country it was released. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me in German if you like.

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Thanks DJ Doena. So simple, but a must know :-). I have two addidional questions to this.

When I change it from Switzerland to Germany here in my database and there is no profile for Germany, does it change it also in the online database then to Germany. I ask this because I have many contributions made with Switzerland not knowing this and would change it now.

And what happens if it tells me that a German profile is already there. I then have the choice to do still the change or to leave it on Switzerland. What happens if I do the change also a German profile is  there?

Thanks a lot, know this all makes it easier to contribute in a fine order.

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When you change the locality (or the EAN / UPC for that matter) that's only affecting your local database - and your online list when you upload it via Online -> DVD Profiler Online -> Upload.

However, it does not change data in the central online database.

When you switch EAN and/or locality DVDP will tell you if there's such a profile already. You can then update your local profile via Online->Refresh DVD from Invelos.

If you wish to contribute profiles that do not exist in that locality yet, you do it like every other profile, too.
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If you contributed profiles with the Swiss locality they will stay in the online database even if you change the locality to Germany and re-contribute that profile. It will go into the database as a new profile, unless somebody else contributed already, then a message will pop up. You will have 2 profiles in the database then for the same UPC/EAN, one und locality Germany and one locality Switzerland.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the DVDs in Switzerland most times the same as in Germany?
Wouldn't it be correct to have those profiles in both localities?

So if you're sure it's the same release, why not submitting as Swiss profile?

Of course, those releases that are country specific should be just in the matching locality in database:

For example there are some profiles in database as German release, which are clearly marked as "just for selling in Switzerland and Austria". (Most times the movies which didn't get a FSK or Spio rating)  -> Shouldn't be with locality Germany  (For example Hell Ride, 7613059303430)

In the other direction I personnaly don't know an example, but found this in wikipedia:
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Zum Teil werden in der Schweiz für einige Kantone aber auch eigene Altersfreigaben erstellt, die sich mitunter ganz erheblich von der deutschen FSK-Freigabe unterscheiden. Zum Beispiel ist der Kinderfilm 2 kleine Helden von der FSK ohne Altersbeschränkung freigegeben worden, während er in der Schweiz eine Altersfreigabe ab 10 Jahren hat.

(For the none German speaking users: special age rating in Switzerland which is different to the German rating)
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the DVDs in Switzerland most times the same as in Germany?
Wouldn't it be correct to have those profiles in both localities?

So if you're sure it's the same release, why not submitting as Swiss profile?




I guess it all depends on if the DVDs in question were officially released in Switzerland, then they could get a Swiss locality but if they weren't then they shouldn't. It should be the same problem with Austria too.

Dirk
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Hello

Hi, Sir.
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Must Germans contribute the same film again with same EAN so they have it as German release?

Current example: 886977603396 (100 Feet).

When I got the B-rD and entered the EAN, Profiler showed me only a swiss locality release. But there is this german-only FSK-logo on the front, and the copyright section on the back reads "Distributed by Sony Music Entertainment Germany GmbH". This is definitely a german release. And the rules tell us "Make sure that the locality selected is correct for the release."

So I submitted a german locality release profile. Regardless of whether I am German, Swiss or eg Vietnamese.

Now, what do you think: should there also be a swiss release profile? I did not deal with the question, so I let that profile untouched.

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Now, what do you think: should there also be a swiss release profile? I did not deal with the question, so I let that profile untouched.

Love, bbbbbb


That is really the question here. I am not sure if there should be a Swiss locality in the online database if this DVD was only released in Germany but is sold in Switzerland also. I think the Swiss locality should be only used if the DVD was released in Switzerland, this could be the same DVD as the German release but it doesn't have to be. How can you find out if a DVD was released in Switzerland or if it is technically imported from Germany? Are there any pages out there that give this info?
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... How can you find out if a DVD was released in Switzerland or if it is technically imported from Germany? Are there any pages out there that give this info?

This is the hard part.

Maybe release websites can help sometimes. For example:
http://outnow.ch/movies/filmstarts/dvd-verkaufstarts/
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...How can you find out if a DVD was released in Switzerland or if it is technically imported from Germany? Are there any pages out there that give this info?


I thought the easiest way to say this DVD was released in Germany, in Switzerland or both is to use the Copyright from the cover.

So in many cases you find on the bottom of the backcover where the DVD was released:
e.g. Zurück in die Zukunft - Trilogie (Blu-ray)
"Produktion, Verkauf und Vertrieb in Deutschland und Österreich durch UNIVERSAL PICTURES GERMANY GMBH [...] und in der Schweiz durch UNIVERSAL PICTURES SWITZERLAND GMBH [...]"
In this case I would say you can contribute for Germany and Switzerland!
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