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Final decision about German "Wendecover" (switch Covers)
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According to the rules one should always scan the side of the Cover the package comes in, often though these get voted down in favour of the other side that doesn't have the "FSK" logo.. Any thoughts?
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The "final decision" by Invelos is here:

Quoting Ken Cole:
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The rules don't specifically cover this.  We generally encourage submission of covers without stickers, and although these aren't stickers, they serve a similar purpose.

So, as long as the flip cover otherwise matches the front, I don't see a problem submitting it.
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While Invelos has decided to allow either side of the cover as long as they are close enough, I still prefer the side with the rating logo.
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While Invelos has decided to allow either side of the cover as long as they are close enough, I still prefer the side with the rating logo.

"close enough" doesn't suffice. According to the contribution rules the covers have to be identical except for the FSK-logo.

The "Final Decision" is already part of the contribution rules

Quoting Rules:
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The inner sleeve may be used in lieu of the front cover as long as the only difference is the exclusion of sticker(s) or rating overlays.


EDIT: As you can see, the rules don't force us to replace the covers.
So for changes the same rules apply as to "normal" image changes. Which means: if you put the removal of the FSK-logo aside, is there a significant improvement? If the answer is "Yes" vote accordingly, if not, or the quality is even worse (seen more than once), vote "No".
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While Invelos has decided to allow either side of the cover as long as they are close enough, I still prefer the side with the rating logo.

"close enough" doesn't suffice. According to the contribution rules the covers have to be identical except for the FSK-logo.

The "Final Decision" is already part of the contribution rules

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The inner sleeve may be used in lieu of the front cover as long as the only difference is the exclusion of sticker(s) or rating overlays.

The rules talk about the "only difference", I carefully have chosen "close enough" because as usual there is some grey area. What does "only difference" mean? Is a cover still "identical except for the logo" if the title beside the missing logo has been slightly moved for aesthetic reasons? I have no definite answer and the community seems to decide on a case by case basis.
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According to the rules one should always scan the side of the Cover the package comes in, often though these get voted down in favour of the other side that doesn't have the "FSK" logo.. Any thoughts?

We should always and anywhere use the cover, and not other artwork.
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According to the rules one should always scan the side of the Cover the package comes in, often though these get voted down in favour of the other side that doesn't have the "FSK" logo.. Any thoughts?

We should always and anywhere use the cover, and not other artwork.


But it IS the cover.
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According to the rules one should always scan the side of the Cover the package comes in, often though these get voted down in favour of the other side that doesn't have the "FSK" logo.. Any thoughts?


The real problem is, the screeners don't care to follow the rules in quite a lot of cases... They just follow the majority of the voters and don't care how good your reasons are - even if you back them up with quoting the rules.

For instance... Right now image contributions of all profiles of the Cinedition released in Germany are up for voting... all miss the front slip cover... and yet many people vote yes because of the (most time) improved quality (which could also be achieved with slip cover)...

There even was a voting here in the forum for this topic (http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=491956)... but when it comes down to voting only those ignoring the rules vote    I sure bet that most of those contributions get approved because the screeners don't care either 
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According to the rules one should always scan the side of the Cover the package comes in, often though these get voted down in favour of the other side that doesn't have the "FSK" logo.. Any thoughts?

We should always and anywhere use the cover, and not other artwork.

But it IS the cover.

If the inside were the cover we would not discuss.
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
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