Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
The Bionic Woman - When the case/menus are wrong
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
OK... got a question. How would you go about this? According to the case and menus there is 5 bonus episodes of the Six Million Dollar Man. But one of the bonus episodes is really the pilot episode of The Bionic Woman.

HERE the company even noted the mistake themselves but said it was too late to fix the case before they went out...

Quote:
Time-Life DVDs have discovered that this "syndicated version" thing truly isn't the case, and that the episode will be on the DVDs EXACTLY as broadcast, Time-Life is adjusting their liner notes on the upcoming DVD set. The key will be this line:

      Although many believed that "Welcome Home Jamie - Part I" was originally intended to air as an episode of The Six Million Dollar Man on January 11, 1976, research for the DVD release revealed that the episode most likely aired as the premiere episode of The Bionic Woman instead, on January 14, 1976.

This wording has been shared with (and agreed upon, we understand) with Universal Studios Home Entertainment, but unfortunately it's too late in the production process for Universal's The Bionic Woman - Season 1 DVDs to undergo any changes, since they are already moving in the direction of the stores for a street date of October 19th. However, Time-Life has a little more time on their hands, and will be able to include this liner notes change on their November 23rd release of The Six Million Dollar Man - The Complete Series.


Bold is what was discovered to be true.. italic is where Universal said it was too late to correct the set before going out.

So the case and the menus call the pilot episode a bonus Six Million Dollar Man episode. All the bonus episodes are on disc 1 for viewing order.

Now... the case doesn't show any numbering... Disc 1 what is considered the bonus episodes (including the actual pilot of the series) is not numbered. But starting with disc 2 they numbered the episodes starting with #1 on episode 2.

Now I think I know how I will be doing this for my local (Numbering all 18 (starting with the bonus episodes) 1-18. But this wouldn't be per rules.

I am thinking per Rules we just couldn't have a number for the actual pilot episode and start with #1 for episode #2.

I can't seem to find it now... but I thought there was a rule that when you can prove the case/menus wrong you can correct that info. I know we do it for specifics on the case all the time. (Running time, regions and such).

So am I right in thinking this...

I am thinking per Rules we just couldn't have a number for the actual pilot episode and start with #1 for episode #2.

or what? How would you handle the numbering of episodes on this set?

Again the only place you see numbering is on discs 2-4 on the menus of the set. Cover images shows no numbering of episodes at all.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordgnagy
Farmington NY Movie Nut
Registered: May 28, 2007
United States Posts: 32
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
As I am the the one who contributed Cast and Crew, etc. for this set prompting this topic, I will bypass my usual "say nothing in the forums" rule and risk the possible negative comments that I try to avoid here. 

My first thought on being referred to the website mentioned in Pete's post is this:

List the "first" episode first, but with no number. Then go with episode numbers as listed on the disc menus, -- 1-13, even though they are "really" episodes 2-14.

That way the information is correct -- and the Rule about episode names in dividers being numbered as shown on disc is adhered to. Rule says: If the DVD or DVD packaging specifically numbers the episodes, use that number in the divider." The disc menus number them.
Randy Compton | Farmington NY
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If we are correct... numbering wise I think that is the only way the rules allow now.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordgnagy
Farmington NY Movie Nut
Registered: May 28, 2007
United States Posts: 32
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
For what it's worth: I have seen some online references to the first episode as "episode 0" to get around this.
Randy Compton | Farmington NY
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
With the rule that says...

Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.

The Six Million Dollar Man episodes wouldn't even get cast and crew lists.... The more I think about this the more complicated this set gets.

I think I personally will just go my own way locally only. And I have no idea how it should be online! 
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
One disc at a time...
Registered: May 8, 2007
United States Posts: 823
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dgnagy:
Quote:
As I am the the one who contributed Cast and Crew, etc. for this set prompting this topic, I will bypass my usual "say nothing in the forums" rule and risk the possible negative comments that I try to avoid here. 


It truly is a sad state of affairs when contributors are made to feel this way.
99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
Registered: Dec. 2, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
United States Posts: 1,339
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Grendell:
Quote:
Quoting dgnagy:
Quote:
As I am the the one who contributed Cast and Crew, etc. for this set prompting this topic, I will bypass my usual "say nothing in the forums" rule and risk the possible negative comments that I try to avoid here. 


It truly is a sad state of affairs when contributors are made to feel this way.


agreed... I don't have a preference in this debate, but I would like to thank dgnagy for contributing despite his obvious concerns for the environment here. Sometimes it's not the loudest, but the silent contributes that make the program great.

Thanks!
-JoN
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTracer
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 951
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
With the rule that says...

Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features.

The Six Million Dollar Man episodes wouldn't even get cast and crew lists.... The more I think about this the more complicated this set gets.

I think I personally will just go my own way locally only. And I have no idea how it should be online! 


Not trying to start anything...
Actually the rules may allow for these bonus episodes to be contributed under the Bonus Feature Film rules.  Since these are not special features but, bonus episodes.

Maybe Geri could let us know if the Bonus Feature Film rules extend out to Bonus Episodes.
Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
It is listed in bonus features... with all the other bonus features (gag reel, featurette and such) on the box.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTracer
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 951
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I still would like to see Ken or Geri's has to say on this, it shouldn't matter where the content is located but, what the content is and what it is not (gag reel, featurette and such) that is normally profiled under features.
Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways.
 Last edited: by Tracer
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next