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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | There are certain releases here in the UK which are also distributed to other countries in Europe. When inserting the disc in the player, before getting to the main menu, it gives you a menu to select your country. Different MC are responsible for different countries and only those responsible for your choice of country are shown.
When contributing, should we use all available MC or only that of the locality of the profile?
edit: I've read over the Rules but couldn't see this covered. | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: When contributing, should we use all available MC Yes. If it's on the disc, why not include it? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] | | | Last edited: by bbbbb |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Only include the media company/companies of the disc's locality, of course.
Why would we, for instance, include a DVD distributor from another country, that didn't actually distribute the disc you have in your hand? Similarly, we only enter the SRP of that disc for that particular locality, right? We don't store the SRP for that same disc in other localities. Why then would we do that for other fields? It just doesn't make sense. Just track the data for that locality. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | IMO the media company should come from the cover not the disc. Companies from other localities are usually not listed on the cover. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
Quote: When contributing, should we use all available MC Yes. If it's on the disc, why not include it? Why not include all Overview languages on multi-language covers? Quoting RHo: Quote: IMO the media company should come from the cover not the disc. Companies from other localities are usually not listed on the cover. That would be best and in this instance you would indeed be correct about them not being listed - UK version - German version - The UK release is Optimum Home Releasing and the German version is Kinowelt. Despite the German version giving a lot more information, the UK version does indeed include the other audio & subtitle tracks. |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | The Media Company field is not only for the distributor but for the publishers and licensors as well. I do believe that the companies responsible for the content of the DVD ought to be added. This is also covered by the Rules.
So if the added media companies are only responsible for the distribution of this DVD in other countries (localities) I wouldn't add them. If those media companies are also responsible for the content of the DVD I would add them. | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Formerly known as...: Quote:
UK version -
German version -
The UK release is Optimum Home Releasing and the German version is Kinowelt.
And in Sweden the distributor is Universal Pictures, but all are StudioCanal. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: IMO the media company should come from the cover not the disc. Companies from other localities are usually not listed on the cover. This sounds like the best option to me. The only time I look on the disc for the MC is when none is present on the case, which doesn't happen very often. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting RHo:
Quote: IMO the media company should come from the cover not the disc. Companies from other localities are usually not listed on the cover. This sounds like the best option to me. The only time I look on the disc for the MC is when none is present on the case, which doesn't happen very often. Of course if there is no MC on the cover, I would as well fall back to the disk. |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: And in Sweden the distributor is Universal Pictures, but all are StudioCanal.
Thanks for that. I missed Sweden as I only looked at the front cover and thought it might've been a completely separate release!! Oops!!
Many thanks to everyone who gave opinions & voted. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Formerly known as...: Quote: Quoting bbbbb:
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Quote: When contributing, should we use all available MC Yes. If it's on the disc, why not include it?
Why not include all Overview languages on multi-language covers? Because that is explicitly against The Rules. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Quoting Formerly known as...:
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Quote: When contributing, should we use all available MC Yes. If it's on the disc, why not include it?
Why not include all Overview languages on multi-language covers? Because that is explicitly against The Rules. Indeed and that is the point. The situation is identical. By not including another localities set up in situation A but including it under B you're (general, not specific) just confusing the matter. If a particular company is responsible in a locality then yes, they should be entered. However this isn't the case here. By listing them, you're suggesting that they in some way play a part in distribution in one country when in fact they aren't. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Only include the media company/companies of the disc's locality, of course So the country of the principal offices of the Media Company has to match the locality? Just like the location of the Production Company determines the Country of Origin? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 201 |
| Posted: | | | | Kinowelt is for the german release ONLY! (its the same on the T2 Skynet Edition BD Profile 5055201807878 etc) I did the same on other Movies LP for the german profile and Evolution for the Swiss Profile | | | Last edited: by nimrod85 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: The Media Company field is not only for the distributor but for the publishers and licensors as well. I do believe that the companies responsible for the content of the DVD ought to be added. This is also covered by the Rules.
So if the added media companies are only responsible for the distribution of this DVD in other countries (localities) I wouldn't add them. If those media companies are also responsible for the content of the DVD I would add them. That is my point of view. Investigating (and proving!) for each Media Company that it was responsible for the "creating, assembling and ordering" of the DVD content? Disproving each time that the Media Company wasn't a "Content Publisher", "Secondary Publisher", "Licensor", "Home Video Rights" holder, or only "Distributor"? When some companies "using similar but different names" "may serve more than one function"? Where to take the Media Company from, by The Rules, only cover, cover and disc imprint, cover and disc imprint but not disc content? Seems quite complicated. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Here though it's clear who is responsible by which logos appear when selecting each locality. Any responsible are shown, any not, don't. The cover also backs this up.
Can I assume that based on your opinion, you will submit the addition of Optimum to the German profile as well? |
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