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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: If an actor's credited name includes a nickname, highlighted by ", ’ or ( ), list it in the middle name field. For example John "JS" Smith, John ‘JS’ Smith or John (JS) Smith Just want to get something clear in my head, in the film Leon there is a credit Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" as i am reading the rules "Cherokee" must go in the middle name field Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt but do you then use the credited as field to show the name as it appears on screen Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] even if this is wrong per the CLT. Or am i reading it wrong and you just enter it as on screen |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: even if this is wrong per the CLT What is the (current) CLT name? But it seems fairly simple. You go with the CLT and if the credited name is (ordered) differently, you give a credited as. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Quoting ninehours:
Quote: even if this is wrong per the CLT
What is the (current) CLT name? I was just using this name as an example of a nickname credit this isn't about a specific contribution |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Edit myself... may be confusing something. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,665 |
| Posted: | | | | There was some discussion on this in the last few months i believe (since v3.6 came out) and the consensus was that
Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"]
was OK. It follows the rules by putting the nickname in the middle field and provides the screen credited name.
The logic is that with all the auto-filtering for things like "Jr" with no leading comma and peeling off honorifics the common name won't always be the one reflected in the CLT. | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | If Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" is the common name, which it will be if he is always credited that way, Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] is the proper entry...per the rules. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed. And obvious. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Agree also, the only thing to keep in mind is to add at the CLT results also the variant with the Nick at last position. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: If Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" is the common name, which it will be if he is always credited that way, Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] is the proper entry...per the rules. Unfortunately, it's not that black and white: the rules do not demand that. Ken previously confirmed that in this thread: Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: I would consider a credited as entry optional in this case. So there you go: it's optional. Both Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt (with no use of the "credited as" field) and Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] are apparently equally valid. I don't understand this approach at at all, since it has resulted in different profiles dealing with the EXACT same on-screen credit in different ways, and has already led to some ping-ponging, but that's what the man said... Per his clarification, there clearly isn't just one "proper entry...per the rules". | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
So there you go: it's optional. Both Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" (with no use of the "credited as" field) and Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] are apparently equally valid. I am sorry, but Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" is not valid. The nickname must go into the middle name field. Both the rules, and Ken's agreement with James in that thread, make that clear. It is the use of the credited as that Ken considers optional. Quote: I don't understand this approach at at all, since it has resulted in different profiles dealing with the EXACT same on-screen credit in different ways, and has already led to some ping-ponging, but that's what the man said... Per his clarification, there clearly isn't just one "proper entry...per the rules". I don't understand that approach either. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with TheMadMartian. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" is not valid. The nickname must go into the middle name field. That's exactly what I was aiming to say, obviously - fixed my post. My point was that per the rules, and per Ken's additional clarification, both Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt (with no use of the "credited as" field) and Lucius "Cherokee" Wyatt [Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee"] are equally valid. Plus that I don't understand that approach... | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: Lucius Wyatt "Cherokee" is not valid. The nickname must go into the middle name field. That's exactly what I was aiming to say, obviously - fixed my post. I have made the mistake of assuming someone meant something other than what they wrote, and gotten burned, so don't do it anymore. I am glad to see that you fixed your post. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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