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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 287 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi, how would you parse Franky G.? clt gives Franky G. 5/27 Franky G 20/203
So Franky G appears to be the common name, only.. is it Franky G// (stage name?) or Franky//G
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | This is not easy. The G is for his last name Gonzales. ( wikipedia) This site lists him under G. I would treat Franky G as stage name. (Franky G//) But Franky G . looks as a shortened last name so I would treat it normal. (Franky/ /G.) |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Here's the debate on the very similar Maggie Q |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | I did a search and found an interview in which both the interviewer and he refers to himself as "Franky", so that for me means it would be parsed Franky//G that plus the fact he's simply abbreviated his last name. I see it as a similar situation to Charles Bronson - he simply changed his last name from Buchinski to Bronson but we still parse it as Charles//Bronson. This guy's just changed his last name from Gonzales to G. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I did a search and found an interview in which both the interviewer and he refers to himself as "Franky", so that for me means it would be parsed Franky//G that plus the fact he's simply abbreviated his last name. This sounds pretty reasonable to me. There's indeed a difference between someone like "Meat Loaf" and "Maggie Q" or "Franky G". Meat Loaf is clearly a stage name, and so it's always used in full. He wouldn't be referred to as just "Meat". "Maggie Q" or "Franky G" can be referred to as "Maggie" or "Franky", because those are indeed their first names. In order for that first part of their names to qualify for a first name, then that second part is pretty much by default their last name. The way I see it, Maggie Q and Franky G both have first names and last names - their last names may seem unusual to us because of their abbreviated form, granted, but they still are just that. |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | It's still a stage name in my eyes. Sure the first is real, but anything but your real name is an alias or stage name, just like if I was a movie as David M. it would be a stage name (although I'd use the Horse moniker in that instance anyway). Did Franky ever change his last name to G, like for real (Ochocinco, lol)? If so, then I stand corrected. Last time I looked him up everything still said Gonzales, commonly known as G. BTW, our ex-drummer looked just like Meat Loaf, and we called him Meat all the time. | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: anything but your real name is an alias or stage name So you would treat John Wayne and Marilyn Monroe as stage names?? I wouldn't, and judging by what's in the database neither would most fellow users. |
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Registered: August 4, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,441 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
Quote: anything but your real name is an alias or stage name
So you would treat John Wayne and Marilyn Monroe as stage names?? I wouldn't, and judging by what's in the database neither would most fellow users. IMHO, alias and stage names are not the same think. | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Bad example on my part, also bad wording and I have to disagree with myself to some extent. Alias and stage names are not the same, that was so wrong to say.
But, anything abbreiviated is probably a stage name. I doubt dude's paychecks read Franky G. It seems that stage names that soiund like real names are tolerated (probably for the best, who uses their real name anymore anyway?), so maybe a rule could read "if the name looks like normal name, it uses normal name rules. If an obvious stage name or abreviated normal name, then it should be entered as a satge name".
FWIW, I have Franky G in 7 profiles, all as stage name, all approved, only one where there was a period after the G in the credits for a C.A. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 287 |
| Posted: | | | | The poll is close, I have 6 in my collection Franky G// Saw 2 (UK BR and US DVD) Franky //G Saw 3 (UK BR, US DVD, Can DVD) Saw 2 (Can DVD) Seems like the discussion is not heading in one direction |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | When it comes to forum agreements... polls seldomly (if ever) do. | | | Pete |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | We need Ken or another mod to chime in and lay down the law, by the looks of the poll, this guy is gonna get flip-flopped more than Tiny Lister. Also, both of them could probably whip anyone here (myself included), so let's not tick em off. | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | It would be good if this was settled one way or another, yeah. Not just for Franky G, but also for Magie Q, Phinneas D. and so on. We need a general, consistent approach to such names. I don't even mind so much which way it goes, as long as we stop the situation where half of the userbase parses it one way and the other half parses it the other way... |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Agree: Some clarification would be good, but since a while the parsing will be ignored so you can have it local how your personnel preference is. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote: the parsing will be ignored If that were true, we wouldn't have a problem. But instead, parsing issues still are very much alive... If you parse Franky G// and I parse Franky//G, and I we both contribute entirely different cast changes to the same profile, then we'll clash over this change that's still automatically included in our contributions. Quite possibly you'll vote against my change saying "no explanation for changed parsing of Franky G", and I might do the exact same thing with regards to your contribution - and I'm saying this based on frequent experience (in general, not with you personally). The system doesn't ignore parsing, and users are very quick to vote "no" for undocumented parsing changes - either way. |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Sorry, was not fast enough to remove. Mixed something. *Too hard day had* So please forget my post. And just read: Quote: Agree: Some clarification would be good | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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