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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm trying to figure out how to handle the crew of Far and Away (Ron Howard, Tom Cruise film)
I can't do screencaps, so I'll list the credits as closely as I can to the actual.
From the opening credits.
Costumes Designed by Joanna Johnston
Production Designer Allan Cameron
Production Designer Jack T. Collis
From the End Credits
After the cast and Stunt Players/United States and Stunt Players/Ireland.
International Crew
Key Makeup Artist Richard Dean
Makeup Artist Edouard F. Henriques III
Mr. Cruise's Makeup Michael Laudati
Key Costume Supervisor Pam Wise
Unites States Crew
Art Director Jack Senter
Special Effects Coordinator Lawrence J. Cavanaugh
Makeup Rod Wilson
Costume Supervisor James Tyson
Ireland Crew
Art Director Steve Spence
Art Director Tony Reading
Special Effects Supervisor John Richardson
Makeup Artist Tony Delany
Costume Supervisor Rhona McGuirke
Do these get any credit?
If not (because of NO Unit crew rule) then it looks like no makeup, costume supervisors, art directors or special effects people get any credit. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would consider these to be Location Crew so personally would have no objection if they were included with dividers (Group) |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm with ninehours - there was a lively discussion about the differences between unit crew & location crew, and from what you are describing, I'd say this falls under location crew. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Nine Hours except
Episode dividers, these are proper divisions, and I would guess that you will also find sound crew within those locations. "Group Dividers will not allow for a proper segregation of jobs.
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | When I come across such credits I check the next two conditions:
A: Unit isn't mentioned at all, the location only -> Location Crew
B: Some crew (Art Directors and the Special Effects crew in this example) aren't credited in the main crew credits and are credited per location.
Make-up and Costumes crew are credited in the main section of the crew credits. But I don't think it's right to add the location special effects supervisor and art directors only. | | | | Cor |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Group Dividers will not allow for a proper segregation of jobs. Indeed they won't, but that doesn't turn a bunch of location crew into any kind of an "episode"... As is so often the case with the various kinds of divider abuse we've seen, people think of some kind of desired end result, and then go in search of whatever tool that lets him achieve that end result. In this case, episode dividers may well achieve what you want to achieve, but it's just not what they're there for. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree... episodes dividers are not allowed for within portions of a single movie. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
I would consider these to be Location Crew so personally would have no objection if they were included with dividers (Group) Indeed, this is how I would handle it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
I agree with Nine Hours except
Episode dividers, these are proper divisions, and I would guess that you will also find sound crew within those locations. "Group Dividers will not allow for a proper segregation of jobs.
Charlie I understand what you're saying but agree with the others that we have to use "group" dividers. What I do in these circumstances is repeat the divider in each relevant crew section. Not ideal but preserves the info I think we're after. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
What I do in these circumstances is repeat the divider in each relevant crew section. Not ideal but preserves the info I think we're after. That's how I would handle it too. |
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