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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | OK lets try and get this sorted one way or the other. Should Group dividers used in the crew section have just the Company name Only or should it include the complete details This is an example of where using the complete details adds context to the credit(s) under it This is an example where the extended details do not add any context to the credits under it One of the argument against using the extended details is the divider length but Ken has stated that you can abbreviate it to fit (I will include a option in the poll for divider length) My own preference is for the extended details as this is the closes to the actual film credits but am happy to go either way, hopefully this will get it sorted one way or the other and Ken will take action to amend the rules |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,730 |
| Posted: | | | | While I actually like the idea, I'm not sure if it will work as expected. But if we don't give it a try, we'll never know. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up! But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Would you propose to do the same (menaing include a divider with details) for e.g. costume designers and makeup artists, when they have been related to particular performers out of the whole cast? | | | Hans |
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote: Would you propose to do the same (menaing include a divider with details) for e.g. costume designers and makeup artists, when they have been related to particular performers out of the whole cast? |
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Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,665 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote: I believe he asked that because your sample credits included your own custom credits, which might be confusing the issue. | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote: Quoting ninehours:
Quote: I believe he asked that because your sample credits included your own custom credits, which might be confusing the issue. OK i have edited the images to hopefully cause less confusion |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Extended details as long as it is used all the time. |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,851 |
| Posted: | | | | Keep the divider name as close to the credited group name as possible.
IMO, the only way to reduce arguments in the future is to use what is onscreen and not some derivative of what is onscreen.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | I voted for company name only as I believe that's what the rule says.
If we were to ever allow for contribution of custom roles for all of our crew roles, I could see contributing all of the information for a divider. Otherwise, it seems odd to me to have 'as credited' dividers but not for crew roles. | | | ...James
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: I voted for company name only as I believe that's what the rule says.
If we were to ever allow for contribution of custom roles for all of our crew roles, I could see contributing all of the information for a divider. Otherwise, it seems odd to me to have 'as credited' dividers but not for crew roles. I believe this is a poll for your opinion and not what is or isn't in the rules. Moreover there's no rule that says company names only. | | | Cor | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: I voted for company name only as I believe that's what the rule says.
If we were to ever allow for contribution of custom roles for all of our crew roles, I could see contributing all of the information for a divider. Otherwise, it seems odd to me to have 'as credited' dividers but not for crew roles. I agree, that it seems odd, but I don't see that as a reason to not do it. The system doesn't allow it for cast roles, which is unfortunate, but it can be done with dividers so I think it should be. For those that are voting 'no', would any of you care to explain your reasons why? Ken asked the same question in the Rules forum and the only person who gave an answer was James...though that might be because the thread was hijacked. Anyway, I am just curious. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | I voted Yes because dividers are giving context to the data. Just like I want the data to be complete I would like to see the context as complete possible. In the other topic concerning the extended info in group dividers I said I was in favour for company only but I've changed my mind because I think context adds more to the database. | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: I voted Yes because dividers are giving context to the data. Just like I want the data to be complete I would like to see the context as complete possible. In the other topic concerning the extended info in group dividers I said I was in favour for company only but I've changed my mind because I think context adds more to the database. Pretty much my feelings as well...right down to the changing of my mind. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Agree with the last couple post... excluding changing my mind... since that was my feeling from the start. | | | Pete |
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | We are still getting contributions removing the extended details from profiles, Ken posted here saying he wanted more discussion on this before making a decision, well i would say everyone that has anything to say has said it so it's time to make a decision one way or the other |
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Registered: August 4, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,441 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, I think that divider like this:
Visual Effects Produced at Foundation Imaging Daren R. Dochterman: Visual Effects Adam "Mojo" Lebowitz: Visual Effects
is redundant and don't add any useful info, the important info is only the name of the Company.
Foundation Imaging Daren R. Dochterman: Visual Effects Adam "Mojo" Lebowitz: Visual Effects
There are sometime examples of better descriptions, however it's not easy to draw a line to estabilish what is useful and what's not, so I prefer a simple divider with only the company name. | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years | | | Last edited: by Kluge |
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