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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I'm asking this here because I figure you guys will offer an impartial opinion.

There are two jobs open for application here in my town.  My mom and my friends want me to apply for them, but I am uncertain if I should.  Yes, I am agonizing this much over just applying, I suppose because it seems to me unfair to apply for a position if I have no intention of taking it.

Background:  I have an MA in Humanities and an MS in Library and Information Science.  My experience (and current position) is almost exclusively in retail.

Jobs that they want me to apply for:
Pros:  Both are in the field of library science and pay about twice as much as I make now.  They are entry level positions, so they would afford me experience in the field.  Both are full time.  Both have full benefits.

Cons:  They are grant funded and last only one year.

The Job I have now:
Pros:  It is a secure position (or as secure as anything ever is) that will continue to employ me.  I will still have a job a year from now (two of my coworkers have been at the store for 15+ years).  I also enjoy my job a lot and like all of my co-workers.

Cons:  The pay is shiitake mushroom.  There are no benefits.  It is going nowhere. 

My reservation is obvious, I should think.  It's the last only one year part.  My friends press the idea that I have spent a lot of money (or, in actuality, taken out a large student loan) to get my education and I should use it.  Either of these jobs will give me experience in the field I have a degree in, so they will look good on my resume which has no experience in my field.  One of my friends, who is currently working a one-year internship, is working the tactic that she has been offered three positions already.  However, there is no guarantee that the same would hold true for myself, or that there will be any position open after the year is up.  I am reluctant to give up a secure, if low-paying, job for a job that will pay better but has no guarantee of security.  My mom says I should go ahead and apply anyway, and if I get called for an interview at least the practice in the interview process will be beneficial.

Would anyone care to share any opinions?  I'd greatly appreciate it.
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I had a few thoughts reading about your dilemma.

The first thing that came to mind was the fact that you sound less than enthusiastic about even applying for the position.

Look at the how you presented the problem: "My mom and my friends want..." and "Jobs that they want...". The most important thing to ask yourself is "what do I want?".

Secondly, you mention that this is only a one year position. Financially though it is in fact, dollar wise, as if you worked 2 years because it pays twice as much. Smart investment and careful planning will give you a second full year to find another position.

It is also important to remember the impact practical experience might have on you and your future. The people you meet during this one year tenure may result in long term employment opportunity in your designated field.

If the worse case scenario occurs and you are unable to find a similar job after this one runs out, is it possible your current job would consider re-hiring you?

Going through the interview process is always helpful. But, I would only do so if I would accept the position if hired.

I would sit down and outline a much more elaborate plan outlining the pros and cons of both accepting or declining this opportunity.
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It's really none of my business, but if I went to school for that long to get an education in a fairly narrow field, then I jump at the first chance I get to actually employ the skills I've learned.  Frankly, it sounds like the kind of field where that perfect offer will never come until you get some experience under your belt.  You can be working retail for a long, long time waiting to use that degree.  Of course, this all presumes that you even want to work in your field of study.
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You've gotta do what you want to do, not what your mom or friends want you to do. I've been working the same job now for about 10 years in retail, that was only temporary at the time, which led to full-time (not a manager/supervisor though). I graduated with a degree in Broadcasting with the dream of working in radio or tv, I even have on hand experience, since we had a 50,000 watt radio station and daily evening newscast that I worked on. Do I regret not doing it? Not a bit. I have fun at my job and love the people I work with and I meet new people on daily basis, even though I would like to strangle a few customers.

So, it's up to you what you do, but remember do it for you and only you.
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A few other things to just consider:

Right now, do you feel comfortable sticking with your current job for at least a few years to come (or maybe many more)?  If the answer is "no" then it means you will have to start gaining experience somewhere at some time. The younger that you are the better for gaining the experience because it can otherwise mean being much older, finally stepping out, and yet you have nothing on your resume yet to help you stand out, and many places will choose to hire younger people.

Three other questions you might ask is will you be able to continue living in the future the way that you want on your current salary, might the place where you are working be willing to rehire you after the year is up, and do you think an entry-level job of this benefit might come around again any time soon?
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I think you already know the answer.

However, if making more money is what you really need, and / or you want benefits, I would suggest preparing yourself for a careful job search. You can probably get some free or cheap career development. A good place to start would be sucessful (by whatever criteria you call success) Alumni of the schools where you got your MS and MA.

You should:
- think about your goals and write them down
- prepare a professional resume
- register with legitimate job search firm - local or internet

The motivation, drive and preparation must come from within for the best chance of being happy with any change you might make.
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Your mother is right.  Your nothing job you now have will lead to other nothing jobs.  Take a gamble and apply for these 1 year guaranteed posts.  They should lead only to better positions in the future.  Being comfortable in your present job ultimately will do nothing for you, you will regret in the future for not trying to attain something in your chosen field of expertise.  My two cents worth.
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The main question you have to answer is what do YOU want to do? If library science is the field you want to get into, then even if the job is only funded for 1 year, you should seriously consider taking it. Often times the funding for another year comes along before you get terminated or a different full time job comes open that is not dependent on grant funding. Experience in your chosen field is very helpful when applying for a job in the future as well. My brother worked on several grant funded jobs before finally getting a permanent position with the Corps of Engineers. He made a lot of contacts with others in his chosen field, and that ultimately helped when the Corps job came open.

The bottom line is only you can determine what is right for you and if you want to stay where you are, that's fine too. Best of luck in what ever you choose to do!
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Here is the questions I have.

Why did you choose your field of studies?
Why are you comfortable at a job that was not in you field of Studies?

Only you can answer the first question.  And you probably know the answer to the second.  The thought of the unknown.  You answered your question in your own statements

"It is a secure position (or as secure as anything ever is) that will continue to employ me.  I will still have a job a year from now (two of my coworkers have been at the store for 15+ years).  I also enjoy my job a lot and like all of my co-workers."

You must answer for yourself, but to make anything of yourself, you must be willing to take a chance.


Good luck


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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Thank you everyone for your kind words and advice.  You've confirmed what I really already knew in my heart, which isn't exactly what I want to do, but rather what I should do.  I'm sure you know the difference.

I decided to go ahead and apply.  It really is what I need to do, the real problem is that I really like where I work now and have no desire to leave.  But the pay will not enable anything that needs to happen - my mom should have the option to retire in the next few years (she is 63) but it would be very, very difficult to manage on my salary alone.  I do need some kind of health coverage, and I will never see that at this job.  And I will never get a bigger house (I need a 3rd bedroom to house my DVDs!)

What I think I will try to do if I get a position is to cut back my hours severely at my current job and stay on for a couple days a week.  Then if there is not a position available later I can increase my hours. 

As for why I did what I did, educationally, here is the answer.  I got both my BAs in fields I enjoyed studying.  I wanted a BA in Anthropology (Archaeology track) but had issues with one class that was always taught by the same professor, so I got a BA in Humanities and a BA in Women's Studies.  What I wanted to do was Historic Archaeology, but that didn't work out.

I then got an MA in Humanities, because I already had the BA and the program was there to get into and I enjoyed studying literature.  I couldn't find anything to do with an MA in Humanities except go into a PhD program, and I do not have the funds to move so I would have had to get the PhD at the same university I got my BA & 1st MA from, and I'm told that's not good.  I have no real desire for a "career" - I just want a decent paying job.  You know the old joke "I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted a paycheck."  A friend of mine suggested Library and Information Science as an educational path that would put something on my resume besides an extensive liberal arts education (my first two degrees are completely academic - to quote Avenue Q, "what do you do with a BA in English?" can just as easily be said about a BA in Humanities).  I figured it was a job I could do, the university that offered the program was only a 2 hour drive, and might even enjoy if I could get into the right end of it (I would be a very good cataloging librarian).

However, if I'd known then what I know now, in 1995 when I first started my BA I would have asked my friend Mark to take me on as his apprentice and teach me how to fix cars.  I'd probably have a decent paying job now and a lot less debt.
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I wish you all the best and good luck of getting the new job

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