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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | Can anyone enlighten me what an Audio Supervisor is.
I got a no vote on the movie Feed (5410504071294) for removing an audio supervisor. This isn't listed in the allowed credits. I tried to look for a job description using google, but found nothing.
Production Sound Mixer, Sound Designer and Sound Re-Recording mixer credits are also present.
The no-voter said Audio Supervisor is a direct translation of Sound Supervisor. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Profile Contribution Approved Oct 18 2008 10:49AM Quote: CREW: Sound: Warren (Wazza) Pearson: Sound (+) (Audio Supervisor) Posted: April 23, 2010 11:38 PM Quote: Updates to crew from credits * removed Warren Pearson - sound supervisor is not in the rules no vote: Quote: . : rules: credits: sound: sound: credited as: sound supervisor, audio supervisor direct translation rules: Quote: If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio : Quote: Audio may refer to: Sound recording and reproduction | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote: The no-voter said Audio Supervisor is a direct translation of Sound Supervisor. I am on the fence here. I can see where the 'no' voter is coming from as audio does mean sound, but I also see where you are coming from as 'Audio Supervisor' isn't in the list. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, my reasons for removal are the following:
1. If you google for a job description of Audio Supervisor, you can't find any.
2. There are 12 entries for Feed in the database, only 2 have the Audio supervisor credited. The dutch locality, which I'm trying to update. And the Belgian locality, which is a copy of the dutch locality.
3. If you use google to search the invelos site for Audio Supervisor, you get no results. This means nobody ever contributed an Audio Supervisor before. Otherwise, I would find some contribution notes. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting .: Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio :
Quote: Audio may refer to: Sound recording and reproduction The first thing that strikes me in this definition is the use of the word may. So Audio may refer to sound recording. When there are other sound credits that are preceded by sound [anything] I wouldn't add the audio credit. If that's the only sound credit I probably would add it though (explaining in the notes why). | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | Just received a PM with a vaild explanation for keeping the Audio Supervisor credit. I've recontributed my other changes without removing Warren Pearson. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote: Just received a PM with a vaild explanation for keeping the Audio Supervisor credit. I've recontributed my other changes without removing Warren Pearson. Could you give us that explanation please? When this problem arises again this topic can be used for the explanation. | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | Reasons provided were the following:
He is credited at the top of the sound post-production crew, directly above the sound designers and there isn't a separate sound supervisor credit.
There is a separate section for the foley credits (so this isn't a sound fx credit)
There is a separate music supervisor, so it doesn't mean that either. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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Registered: April 14, 2007 | Posts: 415 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting .: Quote: ... Wait, you're back? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote: The no-voter said Audio Supervisor is a direct translation of Sound Supervisor. Another valid role name variant. The rules should be clarified that those role name variants are allowed as direct translations. | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote: The no-voter said Audio Supervisor is a direct translation of Sound Supervisor. Another valid role name variant. The rules should be clarified that those role name variants are allowed as direct translations. Hmmmm.... Audio Supervisor...... Sound Supervisor.......... Now I could be wrong, but those both appear to be in the English language. Therefore, a "direct translation" does not apply. Unless it is added to the crew table, it is not contributable (is that even a word????). | | | Hal |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | The Rule doesn't say anything about a direct translation from a foreign language, it simply says direct translation. Because different localities will use different terms for the same roles, until Ken says otherwise, I'd say that these can be contributed. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote: The Rule doesn't say anything about a direct translation from a foreign language, it simply says direct translation. Because different localities will use different terms for the same roles, until Ken says otherwise, I'd say that these can be contributed. This isn't even a matter of a different locality....which I believe is an improper interpretation of the Rule, anyway. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
Quote: The Rule doesn't say anything about a direct translation from a foreign language, it simply says direct translation. Because different localities will use different terms for the same roles, until Ken says otherwise, I'd say that these can be contributed.
This isn't even a matter of a different locality....which I believe is an improper interpretation of the Rule, anyway. It's an Australian movie, maybe they use other names. Besides, it's already in the database. Removing it will be much more difficult than adding was. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
It's an Australian movie, maybe they use other names. Besides, it's already in the database. Removing it will be much more difficult than adding was. Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, you are correct. Removing something is more difficult, even when it should never have been added in the first place! | | | Hal |
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