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Lord of the Rings Trilogy Blu-ray
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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I received the Lord of the Rings Trilogy Blu-ray set today and the set itself has a UPC and inside are two BD cases. One is a thicker case (would be a HD Keep Case) and the other is thinner (HD Slim). Now, the thicker case houses the 3 movies and features (6-discs total) and has its own UPC (most likely so Warner can re-release it w/o the digital copies) while the thinner case houses the 3 digital copies, but this case does not have a UPC.

How should this be handled? Inside the movie case are 6-discs, 3 for the movies and 3 more for the special features (DVD that's already been released). It would have been a whole lot simpler if this had been like The Godfather BD set where each movie was on one disc and then you had a 4th with the supplemental material, maybe it's obvious, but the separate case with the digital copies is throwing me off...

Would it be:

Parent: Motion Picture Trilogy Set (box set rules but add in digital copies to Other Features)
Child: Movies themselves (DiscIDs for the movies and features)
- Grandchild Profile via DiscID (x3)

I'm probably making it more complicated than it needs, but thought I should ask (and yes, I know I might be sorry  )
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Quoting TheMovieman:
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Parent: Motion Picture Trilogy Set (box set rules but add in digital copies to Other Features)
Child: Movies themselves (DiscIDs for the movies and features)
- Grandchild Profile via DiscID (x3)

I'd probably do

Parent: Box set
Child: Box Set
- Grandchildren (the films)

I think you are correct that the Child has a UPC so it can be released by itself later and then it would be a box set container.  If defined that way now instead of trying to put all three films info in it it will

a) save a lot of hassle later
b) be the correct choice anyway (what would you do if it didn't have the outer case?)
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I agree with tweeter.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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I am not sure I am following exactly what the question. But if I do, then we have three Bonus discs which are related to it's appropriate film.  The Rules do deal with this somewhere, see Alien Quad as an example. We don't create Bonus feature profiles in boxsets unless they are tied to a specific film, a general bonus Disc would remain with the parent. Alien Quad has a bonus disc for each film plus a general Bonus disc. This was developed before we had Grandchild capability. So this is not expressly covered in the rules. But I think I like the idea, which ,means modifying Alien Quad and other such sets, if there are any, though one doesn't come to mind. My concern however is that there could be an undesirable (or is it) side effect of creating sub Profiles for all Bonus Discs.

Thoughts

Ah I see there has bee a slight mod to the rules at some point which also affects Alien Quad

"If a Box Set contains discs of Bonus Material for individual films, do not create separate profiles for these discs. Add the information to the individual film’s profile as normal for a single film 2-Disc set. If there is a disc of Bonus Material for all films included in the Box-set, create a separate profile for this disc."

So Bonus discs are not to be set up as child  OR Grandchild Profiles in and of themselves.

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Nevermind, Skip edited his post after I posted mine...


So, tweeter's system is the correct one?
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So, tweeter's system is the correct one?

No, IMO this is a simple boxset with the outer UPC as parent and the films by their disc id as children. If the inner UPC will be released some time in the future that will as well be an other simple boxset.
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If the inner UPC will be released some time in the future that will as well be an other simple boxset.

But it was released and TheMovieman has it in hand.  It's out there and someone will try and use it (or abuse it).
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I have to agree with Rho on this, it sounds like it is not dissimilar from the old slip cases. The slip case had a UPC and oft times the inner case would have adifferent UPC. If this is a correct understanding of the situation, ultimately we will have an entry for the inner case, but it would do no good to build it now, as this will be re-released by the Distributor at a reduced SRP once the supply of covers is exhausted and we have no way of knowing what that reduced SRP will be until it is announced. Nor do we know how the re=release will be configured, we can speculate and guess, but that is....wait a minute. Thought in process, lol

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Ok thought sorted out. This is not any different from the numerous boxset which have been released and each film in the set has it's own case and UPC. Sometimes these are simultaneously released as stand-alones and in those instance the individual movie for the online should get an SRP, I suspect many users do the same as I do when i own the Box and set the Children to $0.00, but I don't Contribute that when it's a simultaneous release. If there is a subsequent re-release  for the stand-alones, then the SRP for this release should be $0.00 and the purchasers of the stand-alone should keep their SRP local. Original data after all. If they really felt it important to SRP for the Online they could contribute via Disc ID.

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With so much confusion, I think I'll just submit the cover scans and leave it for someone else, there's a reason I prefer filling in the data after a profile has been submitted, 
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Awwwww come on Movieman...buck up.          

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This is no different than the numerous Gift Set profiles that we have.  What has been done with those, is what tweeter suggested:

Parent profile for outer box via UPC
Child profile for inner box via UPC
Grandchild profiles for individual discs via disc ID

I don't know why it has to be any harder than that.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Give me an example of what you are referring to martian, please.

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All three LotR gift sets are set up this way.  Parent, via UPC for the outer box, and Child, via UPC for the inner box.  I can't, off the top of my head, think of one that also extends to grandchild profiles, but I don't see why that wouldn't be the natural extension.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Ok now i have to cogitate, i am trying to visualize it. Give me a few minutes.

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I think I have it visualized now and i agree

LOTR Boxset
Lotr HD Keeper
  Movie title plus Bonus Disc
  Movie title plus Bonus Disc
  Movie title plus Bonus Disc

I presume the digital copies case does not have a UPC, so I would mark the Digital Copy in the Parent.

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