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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantShinyDiscGuy
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Well looks like the death of physical media is being is speeding up screw formats im going to get anything i can it's panic time. Yes this is an omission i might have got my ideas about Blu-ray a little wrong 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0118523120100201?type=marketsNews
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Well looks like the death of physical media is being is speeding up screw formats im going to get anything i can it's panic time. Yes this is an omission i might have got my ideas about Blu-ray a little wrong 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0118523120100201?type=marketsNews


Warner is shifting production to other facilities (Sony DADC, mostly) that gave them a better deal. They are actually ramping up Blu-ray production.
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Well looks like the death of physical media is being is speeding up screw formats im going to get anything i can it's panic time. Yes this is an omission i might have got my ideas about Blu-ray a little wrong 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0118523120100201?type=marketsNews


Warner is shifting production to other facilities (Sony DADC, mostly) that gave them a better deal. They are actually ramping up Blu-ray production.


What he said.

Certainly no cause for concern, whatsoever.
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Even as someone who believes streaming is the way of the future, this is a non-concern for me for the reasons Ace said. Physical media will still be around for a bit.
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Agreed...with Ace, Hal and Alien.
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Its hard to find anything digitally that isnt "time bomb" software. So far most of the digital attempts have been plans to get more money for the same product, not make a better product.
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It's a bad thing there not looking to have Blu-ray as a replacement but a short term fixer to the cracks in there failing business of physical based media while HD and 3D downloads are on the way. There ultimate goal now is digital downloads ruling things in 5 to 10 years.

The delivery system which will make this transition even faster is the grid which if you don't know what that is it's the next step in internet. Studios have been failing Miramax, MGM the times they are changing and i hoped they would replace DVD with the an HD format. It had been my dream to one day own a large collection of films in there finest home video quality.

But now im pretty sure that dream is over and DVD's are going to go  Blu-ray will float around for a while and be gone soon enough as well without being given a chance at fulfilling it's potential.
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Having both a Blu-ray player and a damn good upconverting player, Blu-ray brought its slow growth on itself, as its price has finally reached a point in its value.

(Meaning, it was too damn expensive for too damn long and not worth the price. Now that the price has come down to a more reasonable level -- in both media (still getting there) and hardware -- it may be too little too late.)

DVD still has many years left in it.
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Personally I'm convinced we're looking at a dual-format situation for years to come:

1) The mass market format intended for your average Joe. This is currently DVD and it will eventually give way to downloads and streaming.

2) The small market format intended for A/V enthusiasts. This is currently Blu-ray and may eventually give way to some other physical format deemed even better than Blu-ray.

I've been saying this ever since the launch of HD DVD, and since then there's been no new developments that's made me second-guess this conviction.
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Having both a Blu-ray player and a damn good upconverting player, Blu-ray brought its slow growth on itself, as its price has finally reached a point in its value.

(Meaning, it was too damn expensive for too damn long and not worth the price. Now that the price has come down to a more reasonable level -- in both media (still getting there) and hardware -- it may be too little too late.)

DVD still has many years left in it.


I still like DVD i do buy films on the format but i sold a lot with the anticipation of going Blu i thought i might as well get what i can for them.  I like tech and films Blu-ray was the perfect marriage but downloads are a cancer for true film fans and now where almost at the stage where it's like f you for your years of custom and bringing vast amounts of revenue to there catalogue.

Im going to concentrate on DVD again mostly and hope with falling prices i can gather as much as possible in the next 5 or so years till D day and then in years to come tell people of the glorious time at the start of the 21st century when you could buy a film on a disc.

But by then possibly DVD's will have bleached out i heard they do that after 20 years guess it was a plan like when light bulb or a toaster breaks it's cause it was made that way to get you to buy another one.
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Personally I'm convinced we're looking at a dual-format situation for years to come:

1) The mass market format intended for your average Joe. This is currently DVD and it will eventually give way to downloads and streaming.

2) The small market format intended for A/V enthusiasts. This is currently Blu-ray and may eventually give way to some other physical format deemed even better than Blu-ray.

I've been saying this ever since the launch of HD DVD, and since then there's been no new developments that's made me second-guess this conviction.


Please tell me you never thought HD-DVD stood a chance of winning 
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Please tell me you never thought HD-DVD stood a chance of winning 

I thought it stood a chance, and was indeed rooting for it due to it being region free, but that the presence of a Blu-ray player in the PS3 may prove too much for it.

My theory formulated above had nothing to do with the format war though, but because HD DVD came first it was what made me ponder the future of home video fromats.
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It's a bad thing there not looking to have Blu-ray as a replacement but a short term fixer to the cracks in there failing business of physical based media while HD and 3D downloads are on the way. There ultimate goal now is digital downloads ruling things in 5 to 10 years.

You keep saying things like this but, unless I missed it somewhere, I haven't seen anything to support your position.  Are there any sources that you could provide?
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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It's a bad thing there not looking to have Blu-ray as a replacement but a short term fixer to the cracks in there failing business of physical based media while HD and 3D downloads are on the way. There ultimate goal now is digital downloads ruling things in 5 to 10 years.

You keep saying things like this but, unless I missed it somewhere, I haven't seen anything to support your position.  Are there any sources that you could provide?


Well i hardly think there going to post a statement with there plan to f' every one up the a'hole who ever put faith in physical media. I'm reading between the lines i see the future and it's closer than i dare hope it to be.

The phasing out is coming i hope im wrong but i doubt it. Blu-ray is just going to be nothing more than mostly a gimmick than a real format with a few well known great films on the format but in terms of having a significant library of film  and TV the likes of DVD it's doomed.

Let me brake it down

Stage 1 Bring out 3D this year

Stage 2 Blu-ray over takes DVD chart sales by 4th quarter 2012

Stage 3 Phasing out of DVDs and the moving of catalogue titles on to download services between 2013 and 2015 selective release of catalogue tiles on Blu-ray as studios invest in 3D to maximise sales from physical media

Stage 4 2016 last tiles released on DVD

Stage 5 Download sales 2017-2018 over take Blu-ray

Stage 6 2019 phasing out of Blu-ray no plans to adopt a new physical format.

Call that subjective but that's how i see things going now.
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Sure, the studios would love an all digital model where no one really owns anything (except the studios) and they cut out the stores, but they don't have the power to force this on the market. They tried phase-outs with DiVX. Nobody bought the things. Downloads seem to be headed the same way. Destined to Blockbuster maybe, but no physical media in general.
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Sure, the studios would love an all digital model where no one really owns anything (except the studios) and they cut out the stores, but they don't have the power to force this on the market. They tried phase-outs with DiVX. Nobody bought the things. Downloads seem to be headed the same way. Destined to Blockbuster maybe, but no physical media in general.


We now live in a world with cheap data storage and ever faster growing networks and a desire to be green. Fact downloads don't need lot's of plastic to make them and tankers, crates to ship them all over the world and trucks to deliver them once there on land. Downloads, streaming are the future it's just a matter of time my point is that time is sooner than we think.
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