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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | I came across this today:
Peter Lamont
Visual Effects Art Director
I wondered where to put this under Visual Effects or Art Director? |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules. | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules. Agreed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Corne:
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I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules.
Agreed. Me too | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules. You can add Visual Effects and the other variants without the modifiers (supervisor, designer and director) as well. Otherwise i concur the Visual Effects Art Director is not valid. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | I usually add a Visual Effects Art Director locally, but I would agree...don't submit them into the database as they are not specified in the rules. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for all the input. |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Quoting Corne:
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I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules.
You can add Visual Effects and the other variants without the modifiers (supervisor, designer and director) as well.
Otherwise i concur the Visual Effects Art Director is not valid. That's why I used the phrase 'within'  | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
Quoting tweeter:
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Quoting Corne:
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I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules.
You can add Visual Effects and the other variants without the modifiers (supervisor, designer and director) as well.
Otherwise i concur the Visual Effects Art Director is not valid.
That's why I used the phrase 'within' Sorry, but for me it sounded also wrong because you wrote "... only the roles: designer and director are allowed by the rules." If I'm understanding the credit chart right, all those are allowed: Visual Effects Digital Effects Special Effects Special Visual Effects + all this with ending Designer or Supervisor or Director. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Orici: Quote:
I came across this today:
Peter Lamont
Visual Effects Art Director
I wondered where to put this under Visual Effects or Art Director? Imho perhaps he could be added, but as I can't say sure as what, I would leave him also out. Has a good side-effect: No one will be abused if he's added in the wrong section.  |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Quoting Corne:
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Quoting tweeter:
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Quoting Corne:
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I wouldn't add him at all. Within Visual Effects only the roles: supervisor, designer and director are allowed by the rules.
You can add Visual Effects and the other variants without the modifiers (supervisor, designer and director) as well.
Otherwise i concur the Visual Effects Art Director is not valid.
That's why I used the phrase 'within'
Sorry, but for me it sounded also wrong because you wrote "... only the roles: designer and director are allowed by the rules." I said the roles within Visual Effects. I didn't say that a 'Visual Effects by' credit wasn't, I was only talking about the roles. I thought it was pretty clear, my apologies if it wasn't. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | According to this (very short) article on Wikipedia a Visual Effects Art Director is responsible for "conceptualising and designing visual effects shots" so could possible be "Visual Effects Designer" but as they are not specified in the rules best to leave it out. | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
I said the roles within Visual Effects. I didn't say that a 'Visual Effects by' credit wasn't, I was only talking about the roles. I thought it was pretty clear, my apologies if it wasn't. No problem, just wanted to explain, why me and (perhaps) tweeter didn't understood it right. No need to apologize.  |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
According to this (very short) article on Wikipedia a Visual Effects Art Director is responsible for "conceptualising and designing visual effects shots" so could possible be "Visual Effects Designer" but as they are not specified in the rules best to leave it out. Matches to this: http://careers.stateuniversity.com/pages/100000201/PHYSICAL-VISUAL-EFFECTS.html-> "Visual Effects Art Director: design visual effects" But as it's an "Art Director" it will go more into the thinking (from the Wikipedia-article: "making creative and aesthetic choices for visual effects"), then into the doing. |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Sorry, but for me it sounded also wrong because you wrote "... only the roles: designer and director are allowed by the rules."
If I'm understanding the credit chart right, all those are allowed:
Visual Effects
Digital Effects
Special Effects
Special Visual Effects
+ all this with ending
Designer or
Supervisor or
Director. Yep, those are all acceptable. I think the rules should be slightly changed to say " IF there are Visual Effects credits, then DON'T contribute Special Effects. Older movie vfx were called special efefcts, but for more recent sfx usually means skibs and explosions, not vfx anymore. It just leads to superlong effects lists athat contain info not many if any care about. Personlly I want to know who did the vfx and make-up effects on my horror films, I don't care who rigged the bus to blow. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Personlly I want to know who did the vfx and make-up effects on my horror films, I don't care who rigged the bus to blow. Second this.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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