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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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In documentaries, there is often not a cast list (at least, what would be traditionally considered a cast list).  However, people nonetheless appear in them.  Often, I have seen these folks listed in the credits under a heading of Thanks To or other such. 

The recent audit that brings this to mind is for the documentary Hitler's Secretary.  The listing in the credits in this case is "Dank an" which translates according to Yahoo Babel Fish as "Owing to." 

I have always considered this to not be properly a cast list, and therefore marked the individuals in these cases as 'uncredited.'  However, it occurred to me at this juncture that they are not, exactly, uncredited.  It is simply that the credit is not a cast list. 

Do you consider it proper to mark them as uncredited, since the credit is not a cast list?  Or should they be listed as credited, since there is a credit, even if it is not a cast one?
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Since it's a documentary I wouldn't expect a traditional cast list anyway. I first encountered the similar dilemma with Peter jackson's kids in the LOTR movies, as they are in the credits but not in the cast section.

The tiny problem one could see is, that someone that is thanked (you got it right in the thread title, "Dank an" means "thanks to") for their support did not actually appear on screen...

If you are certain that the list refers to the people on screen I would list them as Cast.
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Seconded. The "Thanks to" section does not necessarily coincide with the interviewees during a documentary, so this cannot be taken for granted. In my experience, sometimes interviewees can be identified through subtitles listing their name as they first appear in the film. In these cases they can be considered credited, albeit not in the form of standard credits.
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Seconded. The "Thanks to" section does not necessarily coincide with the interviewees during a documentary, so this cannot be taken for granted. In my experience, sometimes interviewees can be identified through subtitles listing their name as they first appear in the film. In these cases they can be considered credited, albeit not in the form of standard credits.

Agreed.
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