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Slip cover or not?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJeroenX
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The Kevin Smith 3-Movie Collection was released on november 17 2009.
On this day the seperate movie Clerks (upc 786936789133) was also released, it came with a slip cover.

Now, the profile for the box and child profiles were made (using upc for both the box and child profiles). In the profile for the box slip cover was ticked and the child profiles didn't have slip cover ticked.

I recently bought the Clerks disc, it came with a slip cover so I ticked slip cover in the profile for the movie and contributed the change.

I am getting no-votes. I am wondering if my contribution is really wrong, since the profile is for the upc version of the movie.
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I would say, since they were both released on the same day, that the stand alone version should take precedence.
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Let's see if I understand you.

The single release that you have is also in the box set but also has the same UPC?

If so then I would say that the individual release should get priority over the box set.
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Agree with Martian and Forget
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJeroenX
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Let's see if I understand you.

The single release that you have is also in the box set but also has the same UPC?

If so then I would say that the individual release should get priority over the box set.


Maybe my question is a little long and confusing, but hey, I am Dutch;)

Yes the single release and the movie in the box set have the same UPC.
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Then yes, I definitely agree that it should have slip cover checked.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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That's fine, problem is the slip cover scan is not in the database so by checking the slip cover, you remove the Blu-ray banner. If JeroenX (or someone else who owns the standalone with the slip) would submit a scan of the slip cover (front and back per rules), then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

This isn't like checking the slip cover option for a DVD as, I already explained, it will affect the image for the Blu-ray profile.
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That's fine, problem is the slip cover scan is not in the database so by checking the slip cover, you remove the Blu-ray banner. If JeroenX (or someone else who owns the standalone with the slip) would submit a scan of the slip cover (front and back per rules), then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

This isn't like checking the slip cover option for a DVD as, I already explained, it will affect the image for the Blu-ray profile.


I don't own a scanner, but I can contribute the picture which is on blu-ray.com: http://images.blu-ray.com/movies/covers/6371_front.jpg
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Then yes, I definitely agree that it should have slip cover checked.


Agree on this.
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Let's see if I understand you.

The single release that you have is also in the box set but also has the same UPC?

If so then I would say that the individual release should get priority over the box set.


I would agree only if they were released at the same time.

I know for the Fast and Furious box set the box set which had child profiles with UPCs was released as a box set without a slip covers on the individual cases first.  The singles were released with the same UPCs later (2 months I think) with slip covers.  In that case I feel the box set since it was first would take priority.

Tom
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Quoting tkinnen:
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I would agree only if they were released at the same time.
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Tom


Quoting JeroenX:

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The Kevin Smith 3-Movie Collection was released on november 17 2009.
On this day the seperate movie Clerks (upc 786936789133) was also released, it came with a slip cover. ...


For me it sounds like it was released at the same time.
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That's fine, problem is the slip cover scan is not in the database so by checking the slip cover, you remove the Blu-ray banner. If JeroenX (or someone else who owns the standalone with the slip) would submit a scan of the slip cover (front and back per rules), then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

This isn't like checking the slip cover option for a DVD as, I already explained, it will affect the image for the Blu-ray profile.


I understand this and of course should the scan also be submitted. And if not the contributer which was ticking "Slip Cover" doesn't do it, because he has no scanner, another user will contribute the correct scans. (Hopefully)

But as the contribution still is valid/correct*, I wouldn't say it's the best reason for a "No".

* In the opinion of the majority of the voters of this poll.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarknite
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This Profile is for the boxset version. So why does it get changed. Isn't it first come first serve. This profile for the Boxset was first. So others whom bought the Stand alone should make there own profile for the stand alone. I've aready done all the work for this profile and it shouldn't be changed into something its not.
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This Profile is for the boxset version. So why does it get changed. Isn't it first come first serve. This profile for the Boxset was first. So others whom bought the Stand alone should make there own profile for the stand alone. I've aready done all the work for this profile and it shouldn't be changed into something its not.

My understanding is that both versions are exactly the same...with the exception of the slip for the stand alone...and both versions came out at exactly the same time.  They both use the same upc so this isn't turning it into something that it's not, it's changing it to another version of what it is.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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I can't think of a convincing argument either way. It's like the SRP for the title in the Boxset, if you have the Boxset you set SRP to 0.00 locally and leave the SRP alone Online. This may be the biggest single argument in support of your argument, Martian. beyod that when it comes to covers and so forth, I am not sure i would mess with it, whichever way it was set versus what I might have, nor would I be likely to worry about it. From a COLLECTOR POV, we should be able to capture all the pssible variants and we do have a way to do so in a limited fashion, since there is a Boxset Profile available, why not setup the standalone via Disc ID.

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Agree with Skip's "Collector Pov", but I would go the other way and add the content of the version of the Box Set over Disc Id.

Simple reason: Users bought the box set will add it over the UPc from the box set and would get their right child profile, even if it is added over disc id or UPC.

If the standalone would be added over disc id the users who want to add it over UPC (what is the always the prefered way) would get the child profile of the box set. (not matching to their actual Version)
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