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| Registered: August 14, 2009 | | Posts: 25 |
| | Posted: | | | | HI, I have bought a somewhat unusual DVD re-release of a german comedy collection. "Die Nasen Box", EAN: 4020636202384 This collection (as it lies in front of me) comes as a triple feature, meaning that all three movies are on one double-layered DVD-9. If you look up the EAN in the profiles, it seems however that in the past this was a release with three separed DVD-5 discs (one for each movie). My question is now: How should I handle this, as the rules seem to be a bit vague in such a case? On one hand it has the same EAN and general movie content, but on the other hand there are also many discrepancies: 1 DVD-9 vs. 3 DVD-5, trailers seem to have been cut in this re-release, video format was changed to 4:3 for all movies, ...  Normally I would just see it as a Box Set with three movies, where each movie has the same Disc ID. I am however unsure, if this is even possible. Or I could simple make one Profile and add all the movies as discs to it. How would you guys handle this? Elandril |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the existing profile is correct (slip case with 3 inserted keep case with own UPC) and the existing profile is from first release, I don't see a chance to change it.
The only thing you can make is to change the profile locally, if you want.
3 child profiles with only one Disc Id isn't possible., so it would be one profile with all the data within. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | You could change the EAN of the profile to be the disc ID of the new disc (Should be an option on the DVD menu).
Then you could roll up the cast/crews into a single list and use dividers to separate them. Not pretty but it would be submittable without stepping on the existing data.
If you want unique profiles for the films i think you'd have to create Manual profiles for yourself. Those couldn't be submitted. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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| Registered: August 14, 2009 | | Posts: 25 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for all your replies!
I think, I'm gonna go with the individual profiles for each film, since it's a bit more to my liking. I'll then add them to the thread VirusPil pointed out.
It might be a nice addition to support re-releases and multi features (on onsided discs) in a future release of DVD Profiler. Maybe, I'm gonna post something in a wishlist thread...
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | That has been a long-cherished wish of many users. Not simple to implement though, as it will require one or more additional identifiers for DVDP profiles. |
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| Registered: August 14, 2009 | | Posts: 25 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hm, I think something like an additional version number (default being e.g. 1) for UPC/EANs and a content group number for Disc IDs (each starting at 0 and counting up) should suffice to handle both cases. Since a profile can only be either an UPC/EAN or a Disc ID based, even one such integer number would be enough to achieve the wanted result.
What might be trickier is designing the interface to let users easily choose the correct version for their additions. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,640 |
| | Posted: | | | | Technically I think that this is a mistake on the part of the manufacturer. As far as I can understand, if the content is changed it should not be given the same EAN/UPC.
Changing packaging is ok, thus we can have different cases, artwork etc on a re-release, but the content on the disc should be the same.
So, essentially what you are asking for is for DVD Profiler to allow for manufacturing mistakes. And maybe it should. But that's a slippery slope. We have seen manufacturers screw up EAN/UPC codes so the check digit doesn't compute. Should we allow for this as well...?
These kind of things not only make Profiler more complex and difficult to use, but also increases the risk for incorrect information to slip into the database. I'm not entirely convinced that the gain outweighs the drawbacks. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | The content can change too. I have seen it many times. for example removing the widescreen version from a widescreen/full framed release. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Technically I think that this is a mistake on the part of the manufacturer. As far as I can understand, if the content is changed it should not be given the same EAN/UPC. While it shouldn't be given the same EAN/UPC, this is not uncommon. And, if you think about it, the content didn't change...just the format. From a manufacturers point of view, if you aren't selling the original anymore, why not reuse the EAN/UPC? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,640 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that a specific EAN/UPC should not be used for another product that does not have the same specifications. However, if - as you say - it is not uncommon, then we may have to live with the reality instead of the theory. That's not uncommon either, unfortunately.  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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