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| Registered: May 8, 2007 |  Posts: 270 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have seen many disc id descriptions go through lately with the last disc id discription (Episode 12-16 & Bonus Material).
As per rules:
TV Series/Disc IDs : "Label each of the discs containing episodes of the series. If there is a separate disc of extras with no episodes, use the standard "Bonus Materials" description."
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DVD Specification/Disc IDs : "Add disc information for each disc using a DVD-ROM drive. Use the default descriptions wherever possible; do not change "Main Feature" to the film’s title. Use one description per disc. If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc."
Bold mine.
One or two Disc ID Descriptions? Which is correct? | | | Jim
More than I need, but not as many as I want! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see what you are describing as being any sort of prblem, eagle. In fact quite the contrary I find such a description to be correct and accurate. It is obviously not JUST a Bonus Disc, but there are Bonus materials on it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yea, I don't see the problem either. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting eaglejd: Quote:
I have seen many disc id descriptions go through lately with the last disc id discription (Episode 12-16 & Bonus Material).
As per rules:
TV Series/Disc IDs : "Label each of the discs containing episodes of the series. If there is a separate disc of extras with no episodes, use the standard "Bonus Materials" description."
and
DVD Specification/Disc IDs : "Add disc information for each disc using a DVD-ROM drive. Use the default descriptions wherever possible; do not change "Main Feature" to the film’s title. Use one description per disc. If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc."
Bold mine.
One or two Disc ID Descriptions? Which is correct? The program has support for both side A and side B Descriptions, but older versions did not. This may be some old text that was not updated after the program was changed. I would say if it is a dual-sided disc add a description for each side. I don't think that "(Episode 12-16 & Bonus Material)" as a description is an issue. pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Shouldn't it be plural though, Episodes and Bonus Materials ? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | It should indeed. Good eye. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I always seen this to be against the rules.... and remove them whenever I see them. Always been accepted.
The TV Series rules do not cover more then 1 disc description... so we are told by the rules the standard rules still apply when not covered... standard rules prohibit more then 1 disc description.
I for one hate seeing Episodes 1-4 & Bonus Features. For one thing to me it looks too long and messy. for another reason it is never done consistently. I see so many where this is applied to the final disc in the set only. What about all the bonus features on the other disc of the set... where there is usually deleted scenes, commentaries or what have you (even trailers on disc 1) these are all bonus material... but yet it is normally only the last disc that has both descriptions for some reason.
Anyway... the way I read the rules it is against the rules to have both descriptions in there so I will continue to vote no and remove the ones I find already there. At least until I have Ken or Gerri tell me otherwise. | | | | Pete |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,723 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm with Pete on this. Latest poll on the subject here. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 223 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Pete and Tim...
... we don't say "Main Feature and Bonus Materials" for our single disc titles, so why would we use a different standard for these tv discs? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only problem I see is when a contributor uses "Special Features" instead of "Bonus Materials". | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stevegblair: Quote:
I agree with Pete and Tim...
... we don't say "Main Feature and Bonus Materials" for our single disc titles, so why would we use a different standard for these tv discs? The reason is that on a single disc release, you know where to find the bonus materials if there are any. They are obviously on the single disc. On a multi-disc release, although they are commonly on the last disc, they can often be found on any number of discs. For me, it is very useful to know which discs, in a multi-disc set have bonus features on them and which ones don't. Just exactly what harm is there in including this information, especially when they combine an episode or two with all of the bonus features on the last disc. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is one of those gray areas in the rules. Discs with episodes are mentioned and discs with just bonus material are mentioned. Discs with both, however, are not. Since they aren't, I vote for the option that gives the most useful information...so I agree with hal. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
I'm with Pete on this. Latest poll on the subject here. 24 to 30 is hardly a consensus. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 223 |
| | Posted: | | | | The problem I could see is that users will start labeling any disc with bonus features on it. For example, any tv set with commentaries: Disc 1 - Episodes 1-6 and Bonus Materials Disc 2 - Episodes 8-13 and Bonus Materials Disc 3 - Episodes 14-19 and Bonus Materials Disc 4 - Episodes 20-24 and Bonus Materials To me it just looks messy I guess.... *Edit* I just re-read Pete's entire post and realized I basically just said what he did...  | | | | Last edited: by stevegblair |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stevegblair: Quote:
The problem I could see is that users will start labeling any disc with bonus features on it. For example, any tv set with commentaries:
Disc 1 - Episodes 1-6 and Bonus Materials
Disc 2 - Episodes 8-13 and Bonus Materials
Disc 3 - Episodes 14-19 and Bonus Materials
Disc 4 - Episodes 20-24 and Bonus Materials
To me it just looks messy I guess....
*Edit* I just re-read Pete's entire post and realized I basically just said what he did... I agree... it does look very messy in my opinion. But I for one think if the rules (as I read them) change (by Ken/Gerri clarification or rules update) I think it would need to be for every disc that has special features on the disc... or it will be very inconsistent. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
This is one of those gray areas in the rules. Discs with episodes are mentioned and discs with just bonus material are mentioned. Discs with both, however, are not. Since they aren't, I vote for the option that gives the most useful information...so I agree with hal. Martian... Since you agree multiple descriptions is not mentioned in the TV series rules. What are we supposed to do in that case? Per the rules we follow the standard rules.... Rules quote: Quote:
These rules apply to all kinds of profiles, but there are two special cases where the rules need clarifications. Where you see the icons shown below, refer to the special instructions at the end of this document. These are titled Movie Box sets and TV Series on DVD.
Box sets containing more than one film
TV Series on DVD
Note: The standard rules do apply for these special cases; the sections clarify specific ways the rules apply to box sets and television series on DVD. So going to the standard rules... what does it say about multiple disc descriptions? Rules Quote: Quote:
Add disc information for each disc using a DVD-ROM drive. Use the default descriptions wherever possible; do not change "Main Feature" to the film’s title. Use one description per disc. If a disc is double-sided, there is only one description for that disc. Which is exactly why I say at this time this is against the rules. And why I always remove them (and they are always accepted) and always vote no to them when I see it added. So as you can see... I just can't advocate adding both descriptions to these discs. | | | | Pete |
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