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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormajdad
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How should I enter the cast and crew for this SyFy mini series?  The DVD is split into three parts but there are only beginning credits at the beginning of Part One and the end credits are at the end of Part Three and nowhere else. The only difference I could find is that there is another screenwriter for part three it said so in the beginning credits of Part One, everything else is the same. So should I make credits for Part 1, 2 and 3 or just one set of credits for all three parts, Somebody else has created child contributions for the two discs but no cast and crew credits on either.
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Personally I would say that if the credits have dividers to separate the parts then we would do likewise & if not then it would just be a long list.
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I think I agree with Forget.  The credits are for the entire series so I would make one set of credits.  If the series is split on to both discs, you would have the credits on both.
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If the series is split on to both discs, you would have the credits on both.

I don't see that child profiles are necessary, or even allowed here. Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but a "miniseries" isn't necessarily a TV set for which child profiles can be created. I own a couple of these, and they tend to play as one long movie. Since majdad's explains that there's only one set of opening credits at the beginning (disc one), and one set of end credits at the very end (disc two), how could we possibly split that over two child profiles? Only the data from the opening credits in child profile #1 (because there are no end credits on that particular disc), and only the data from the end credits in child profile #2 (because there are no opening credits on that one)? No, I don't think we can use child profiles - instead both discs, and all cast and crew data, need to be listed in the parent only, and this bit of the rules applies:

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If a film spans 2 discs, add (Part 1) and (Part 2) to the “Main Feature” description.
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If the series is split on to both discs, you would have the credits on both.

I don't see that child profiles are necessary, or even allowed here. Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but a "miniseries" isn't necessarily a TV set for which child profiles can be created. I own a couple of these, and they tend to play as one long movie. Since majdad's explains that there's only one set of opening credits at the beginning (disc one), and one set of end credits at the very end (disc two), how could we possibly split that over two child profiles? Only the data from the opening credits in child profile #1 (because there are no end credits on that particular disc), and only the data from the end credits in child profile #2 (because there are no opening credits on that one)? No, I don't think we can use child profiles - instead both discs, and all cast and crew data, need to be listed in the parent only, and this bit of the rules applies:

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If a film spans 2 discs, add (Part 1) and (Part 2) to the “Main Feature” description.

From what I can gather, it does not play as one long movie but is shown in 3 distinct parts, exactly as it aired.  There is a distinct part 1, a distinct part 2 and a distinct part 3.  Parts 1 and 2 are on disc 1 and part 3, along with the special features, is on disc 2.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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If the series is split on to both discs, you would have the credits on both.

I don't see that child profiles are necessary, or even allowed here. Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but a "miniseries" isn't necessarily a TV set for which child profiles can be created. I own a couple of these, and they tend to play as one long movie. Since majdad's explains that there's only one set of opening credits at the beginning (disc one), and one set of end credits at the very end (disc two), how could we possibly split that over two child profiles? Only the data from the opening credits in child profile #1 (because there are no end credits on that particular disc), and only the data from the end credits in child profile #2 (because there are no opening credits on that one)? No, I don't think we can use child profiles - instead both discs, and all cast and crew data, need to be listed in the parent only, and this bit of the rules applies:

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If a film spans 2 discs, add (Part 1) and (Part 2) to the “Main Feature” description.

From what I can gather, it does not play as one long movie but is shown in 3 distinct parts, exactly as it aired.  There is a distinct part 1, a distinct part 2 and a distinct part 3.  Parts 1 and 2 are on disc 1 and part 3, along with the special features, is on disc 2.


That's how the UK Blu-ray is except it's all on one disc.
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As an aside, is this any good?  I missed it when it aired and didn't know that it had been released.  SyFy is notorious for their bad 'B' movies, so would like to know before I buy.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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As an aside, is this any good?  I missed it when it aired and didn't know that it had been released.  SyFy is notorious for their bad 'B' movies, so would like to know before I buy.


Yes, it's actually quite original and entertaining. It's made by RHI Enetertainment, so there's a level of professionalism to it above the norm.

As for how to enter the credits, the R1 profile simply has them as normal credits without dividers. I would agree that would be the correct way to do them in this example.
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I thought it was pretty good. It gives quite a modern twist to the classic book/film. That's not to say that it's the same story with a sci-fi look because it's not but you can easily spot references.
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I'll throw in a    for it too.  I really enjoyed it and thought that Zooey Deschanel was pretty good in it.  Definitely not trying to be the original, but good in its own right.
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I'll have to be the odd one out and throw in a    I thought the picture quality (on SF) was crap, story was forgettable and overall a loss in some hours of my life I will never get back. (I made the mistake of thinking it had to get better and needing to know the resolution - for completeness - which is why I persisted with the third part..

Watch something decent instead..
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From what I can gather, it does not play as one long movie but is shown in 3 distinct parts, exactly as it aired.  There is a distinct part 1, a distinct part 2 and a distinct part 3.  Parts 1 and 2 are on disc 1 and part 3, along with the special features, is on disc 2.

But if, like majdad said, there's only one a set of opening credits at the beginning of part 1 (on the first disc), and only one set of end credits at the end of part 3 (on the second disc), then I don't see how you could divide that up over two child profiles. Again: how would you do that? Would you list only the people from the opening credits in the profile for the first disc, and then only the people from the end credits in the profile for the second disc? 
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But if, like majdad said, there's only one a set of opening credits at the beginning of part 1 (on the first disc), and only one set of end credits at the end of part 3 (on the second disc), then I don't see how you could divide that up over two child profiles. Again: how would you do that? Would you list only the people from the opening credits in the profile for the first disc, and then only the people from the end credits in the profile for the second disc? 

Just so we are clear, when I buy this I won't be using child profiles...mainly because of the single set of credits.

That being said, child profiles have already been created.  For those profiles, I wouldn't split the credits up.  As you said, it wouldn't make any sense to do so.  If I were making child profiles, I would put all the credits in both profiles.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormajdad
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Thanks everybody for your input, I left the cast and crew as it existed just updated the crew a little. I'm not sure who put the child profiles on the database but is there a way to remove them? For those who haven't seen Tin Man I thought is was a good movie I liked the way they worked in the Flying Monkeys and Toto.
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Thanks everybody for your input, I left the cast and crew as it existed just updated the crew a little. I'm not sure who put the child profiles on the database but is there a way to remove them? For those who haven't seen Tin Man I thought is was a good movie I liked the way they worked in the Flying Monkeys and Toto.

I don't see any rule that says you can't have child profiles in a case like this, so I'm not sure about removing them from the online database.  You can certainly delete them from your local database, which is what I think I'll eventually do when I get around to it (though I have the child profiles currently).
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