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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Would "Weird Al" qualify for Theme by credit for writing and singing the opening song for the movie?
Is this the proper use of "Theme by"? |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, I don't own the disc but I do recall him getting a credit during the opening credits, what did that say? I think it would be for song but you also will want to check the end credits and see who wrote it. It's kind of like the James Bond movies. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,998 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd say he'd get a song credit (again, like how we credit James Bond in which this movie was spoofing). |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | My question at this point would be
What do we use "Theme by" for then? |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | At the moment there is nothing in the rules to tell us what to use "Theme By" for (though i would think it's for TV show themes), but the credit does say "Spy Hard Theme" so don't think anyone could object to it being credited as such.
Hopefully when 3.6 comes there will also be a update to the rules which will clarify this |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | I guess technically "Theme by" could be used since "Theme" is in the title. Song Writer is, in this case, more correct and the choice i'd make.
Usually the Theme writer has a Composer credit first and if parts are used subsequently it is credited as a Theme.
Example: Monty Norman got a Composer credit for Dr. No and as far as i know got Theme by credits for subsequent Bond films. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also, TV series gets many theme bys (Dollhouse and Fringe for example). Plus you get some famous composer who will do the theme for a series and then some lesser known (ie cheaper) person will do the score. |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,044 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have this title and would not vote no if you used "Theme By" credit. Rory  | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013
DVD Profiler for Android as of 5/17/2013 | | | | Last edited: by rorymatt |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd use "Theme By", because the "song" is explicitly called "Theme", but since a theme usually is a song (or at least part of a song) too, I guess neither is totally incorrect.
It's just that a long time ago I learned that the special rule outweighs the general rule. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would not vote no to either Song Writer or Theme by. Either is supportable the way that credit is written. But the rest of his credits shown here, no credit in Profiler. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
I guess technically "Theme by" could be used since "Theme" is in the title. Song Writer is, in this case, more correct and the choice i'd make.
Usually the Theme writer has a Composer credit first and if parts are used subsequently it is credited as a Theme.
Example: Monty Norman got a Composer credit for Dr. No and as far as i know got Theme by credits for subsequent Bond films. I can see this both ways, but judging by other stuff in my collection, namely the Halloweeen, I'd say song writer. The first Halloween movie is "composed by John Carpenter", later entries credit him with "Theme by". So the question is, if "theme"is in the song title, is it a song or theme? I definitly wouldn't credit the Jeopardy Theme though, as that wasn't written for the film or any previous films. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have quite a few composers and musicians among my friends, and they tell me: every "theme" is a "song", yet not every "song" is a "theme". I'm guessing that won't help at all, though.  The 'Spy Hard Theme' definitely is a "song", yet it functions as the movie's "theme" (or "theme song", if you will). You could say that the same thing goes for 'Where Everybody Knows Your Name': it's a song featuring as the theme for 'Cheers'. Now do we enter that as "song" or "theme"? And is Tina Turner's 'GoldenEye' the "theme" for Bond flick 'GoldenEye', or is it just an original "song"? Good luck...  Edit: let me add my own personal answers to those questions. I use "theme by" for 'Where Everybody Knows Your Name', and I use "song writer" for each of the Bond title songs (along with an actual "theme by" credit for Monty Norman). And it occurs to me that if I consider 'GoldenEye' to be a "song" for the corresponding James Bond film, then I'd have to label Weird Al's contribution to 'Spy Hard' as such, too. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, since he's given two credits (though his name appears only once), I think I'd go with Song Writer AND Theme By. That has the extra advantage of avoiding some ping-ponging between people who think it should be one or the other, since they're both there. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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