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| Registered: July 26, 2009 |  Posts: 12 |
| | Posted: | | | | My apologies if this has been brought up before but I didn't see any specific guidelines or rules for this. Let me be clear that in no way am I referring to TV series volumes here but rather numbered collections of movie titles released by the studios to force us poor crazed collectors to buy every release. In particular, for collections such as the Fox Film Noir or say even the Criterion Collection where the spines are numbered - how should this be accounted for in the database? I would love to be able to have something to search and sort my collection of these type of titles. The Fox Film Noir series is probably a great example because of the following idiosyncratic way it was handled and numbered (that and I own all of them  ) Number Fox Film Noir Title 1 Laura 2 Call Northside 777 3 Panic in the Streets 4 House of Bamboo 5 Street with No Name 6 Nightmare Alley 7 House on 92nd Street 8 Somewhere in the Night 9 Whirlpool 10 Dark Corner 11 Kiss of Death 12 Where the Sidewalk Ends 13 No Way Out 14 Fallen Angel 15 House on Telegraph Hill 16 Boomerang 17 House of Strangers 18 I Wake Up Screaming 19 Vicki 20 Shock 21 Fourteen Hours 22 Black Widow 23 Daisy Kenyon 24 Dangerous Crossing 25? Roadhouse 26? Moontide The last 2 were not numbered but released as 25 or 26 in the set And potentially there are a few other titles that could be released in the future for the Fox Film Noir collection. Also the Fox Five Star Collection was another odd one. And there are others like the Fox Studio Classic series, the Dragon Dynasty releases, etc etc where I think they should be grouped and noted by their spine numbers. Any thoughts or suggestions? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is no way for contribution purposes that I know of. What I would do is just stick it in the Notes field. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | You could also use tags fairly easily with this. | | | | Lori |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Pete is correct, there is no way to contribute this information for the on-line db. You could use tags, as LJG suggests, or simply change your sort title if you want them grouped together. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I created an empty parent profile called 'Fox Film Noir Collection' and made all of the films children, to group them all together. It doesn't put them in numeric order, but at least they're all together. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | You can sort and order these with the Sort Title field in your local database. It's not contributed to the online database. For your list you could have the following:
TITLE FIELD SORT TITLE FIELD
Laura Fox Film Noir 01
Call Northside 777 Fox Film Noir 02
Panic in the Streets Fox Film Noir 03
House of Bamboo Fox Film Noir 04
Street with No Name Fox Film Noir 05
I have done this with the James Bond Movies in my local collection
Dr. No is sorted as James Bond 01
Quantum of Solace is James Bond 22 | | | | Chris |
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| Registered: July 26, 2009 | | Posts: 12 |
| | Posted: | | | | I kinda like the idea of the local parent profile for the series and then combining it with the Sort Title Field.
Also you could put the titles you don't have on the wishlist so that when you select the All view you could see all, owned and missing (wishlist)
Not perfect but at least functional and simple. I will still probably keep my separate spreadsheets for these type of series and other collectible groupings.
Does anyone have an example of how they have done something like this with tags?
In a somewhat related note, I have been trying to think of a way to do something similar to this but for say a grouping of titles like all the Hammer horror films (which I just have a spreadsheet checklist of which I just check off titles as I scrounge them) which the above method wouldn't work that well since the titles are way scattered across various media companies -and I am not sure that tags or Sort Titles will quite work for something like this. I think that pulling Hammer Films and the Horror genre would also be a goofy sort and not quite give me that checklist feel as the above parent group and sort title method would. |
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| Registered: July 26, 2009 | | Posts: 12 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also to make things clear in regards to the original topic I posted before this thread skews too far off.
So from what I understand--->
There is no accepted or standardized means to document spine numbers for the database.
That being said I really would like to see a couple of fields added to the database for series title and number to capture this as I think it would be extremely helpful for both movie collections as well as TV series volumes. I think it is kinda funny that we are sticklers for documenting credits and cover info but neglect to capture the spine information which is how most of us physically see and display our collections. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cmaeditor: Quote:
It's not contributed to the online database. Unless it changed for 3.5, the sort title is set with the initial upload of a profile and it can't be changed after that. |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | How about this.
If you are not using the Location and slot for something else
Set up location Fox Film Noir
Slot 1
Location Fox Film Noir
Slot 2
This way you could actually sort them in display, and not alter another field for this. This would not be contributable, but could solve an issue on your local. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
Quoting cmaeditor:
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It's not contributed to the online database.
Unless it changed for 3.5, the sort title is set with the initial upload of a profile and it can't be changed after that. Not true, Doc. The parameters for the sort field Online are determined by Ken and none of us know these for sure. While I suspect that most of the time you would be correct, I also suspect that an initial Contribution Laura with a a Sort Title of Fox Film Noir 01 would be thrown out by Ken and the sort title would be Laura. This based on Ken's last attempt to allow users to have input by saying that Sort Title=Title, this was ignored as users still tried to manipulate the online to sort the way they wanted it to Sort. He then stated that Sort Title would be Local ONLY and the Online Sort choice would be HIS. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't use tags a lot---is there a way to tag them so that they can be sorted by the collection number?
I should go through my collections that I store separately (like the Criterions, etc.) and put the spine number in the Notes section if nothing else so I can find it on the shelves. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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