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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | How would you list the following credit: Quote:
Special Guests
Thomas Roth
Albert Dannenmann of Die Geyers That is exactly how the credits read. Both Roth & Dannenmann are members of the band Die Geyers. This is on a concert DVD for the band Blackmore's Night. Roth & Dannenmann are guesting at the concert. The members of Blackmore's Night are credited above them and they were easy to transcribe. (example -> Ritchie Blackmore - Guitars, Mandolin, Mandola, Hurdy-Gurdy ) How should I list Roth & Dannenmann: 1: [DIVIDER]Special Guests Thomas Roth - Die Geyers Albert Dannenmann - Die Geyers 2. [DIVIDER]Special Guests of Die Geyers Thomas Roth Albert Dannenmann 3. Thomas Roth of Die Geyers - Special Guest Albert Dannenmann of Die Geyers - Special Guest 4. Thomas Roth - Special Guest, of Die Geyers Albert Dannenmann - Special Guest, of Die Geyers 5. Thomas Roth - Special Guest Albert Dannenmann - Special Guest These are all the thoughts I've come up with. Any others, please elaborate! | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 863 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd go for option 5. I think the 'of Die Geyers' is just some extra info, from what i understand, they don't appear as Die Geyers. They are just 2 members of that band.
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd leave out "Special Guests" anyway, just like we leave out "Featuring", "Co-starring" and all the other qualifications in e.g. TV-episodes. It doesn't mean anything, they were there, or they weren't, that's all that matters.
And I agree with Paul, if the band was incomplete, using a divider with Die Geyers does not make sense.
So just the names, or if you like with '(of) Die Geyers' as a role. | | | | Hans | | | | Last edited: by Staid S Barr |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | As long as no divider is used, I'm happy
I would maybe use 'Thomas Roth as Himself' since no role is given. But I would definitively not use any divider. | | | 
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | From your given options I would choose #5, but I think that rebyrs approach is the best. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally, I have added them to
"Blackmore's Night: Castles & Dreams" (0693723991573) as:
Name Role
Thomas Roth Special Guests: Geyers
Albert Dannenmann Special Guests: Geyers
"Blackmore's Night: Paris Moon" (693723986173) as:
Name Role
Thomas Roth Special Guests of Die Geyers
Albert Dannenmann Special Guests of Die Geyers
I do feel they need to be entered since they are present at a lot of shows of the band. I've seen them in 1995 in Belgium, and in 2003 in Holland, and both times Die Geyers were Special Guests. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Chris, I definitely want to list them - just trying to figure out how.  Hadn't even thought of rebyr's approach, but that definitely sounds like a good idea. So, since I can't edit the poll, do you think it should be just "Himself" or should I keep the information about the band they're from and it be "Himself (Die Geyers)" -> I've seen the latter done in other music DVDs (I think I have one that has the role listed as "Himself (AC/DC)"). | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm good with either #1 or #2. It's a divider for Special Guests. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would credit them as follows:
Special Guests
Thomas Roth [Thomas Roth of Die Geyers] as Himself
Albert Dannenmann [Albert Dannenmann of Die Geyers] as Himself
That preserves the credit exactly as credited. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would not use a divider, I see no reason for it in cases such as this when the credit can be applied directly to the name (and him/herself is totally redundant for music DVDs).
Thomas Roth [Thomas Roth of Die Geyers] as Special Guest
Albert Dannenmann [Albert Dannenmann of Die Geyers] as Special Guest | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hadn't thought of that option...I think I like it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | It definitely should not be 2 (Special Guests of Die Geyers) or any similar combination because they are guests of the producers, not guests of Die Geyers. They aren't guests of themselves after all. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, that's how I read that sentence too. I included that as an option as the German locality profile I downloaded with the UPC has them listed that way, but it didn't read right to me.
(Naturally verifying data before submitting and have already discovered some minor differences)
Hmm, with TheMadMartian and Kinoniki both agreeing on Kinoniki's proposed option (and I kinda like it too), does anyone have an objection to that way of crediting these two? | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield | | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 863 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
I would not use a divider, I see no reason for it in cases such as this when the credit can be applied directly to the name (and him/herself is totally redundant for music DVDs).
Thomas Roth [Thomas Roth of Die Geyers] as Special Guest
Albert Dannenmann [Albert Dannenmann of Die Geyers] as Special Guest Wouldn't this arise the possiblity that the common name changes to Thomas Roth of Die Geyers? If that hasn't already happened if some of these DVD's are corrected? And BTW, how would you parse this if this turns into the common name  |
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