I know about the debate on the multiple contributions and I am not trying to re-open old wounds but I have got an issue with siubmission notes that seem to me to imply something else.
I know what Ken said about notes to do with basing submisssions on another profile. I took that to be in addition to him earlier saying if you did not own the disk you should say so in the notes. Since you can base a submission on another profile AND own the disk they are 2 are different issues
I do not think for a minute that this was is the intention of the submitter but I was voting based on a number of submissions with the same wording erroneously until I picked up on the number of threads here.
I thought that these notes indicated that research and checks had been carried out on the Submitted EAN not the disk quoted as the source.

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Re-audited cast and crew data: everything taken exactly as credited from the credits of the DVD under EAN 8-711875-975288 in which these changes have already been accepted, using the "credited as" feature where necessary - extensively researched on the internet and fully supported by Invelos' own "credit lookup tool" results.

I would prefer notes to make it clear that the submitter has not checked the disk and that it is just a clone of another localities DVD.

I checked what they had submitted and voted yes.

In the past I had voted yes based on the fact that they were a trusted user and the notes implied, to me, that they had checked the cloned data matched the submitted EAN, and had researched it to ensure it was correct.

I can't, I want the details on his research and CLT results. I do not accept" it is because I say so" I don't like it on rare occassions when I have to do that, usually with regard to Studios but I do offer a detailed expplanation oy my own knowledge of studios, which is more than this user has done. The only person that I trust on Studios even more than myself is Unicus.

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I checked what they had submitted and voted yes.

And that's what you should do anyway. If a user submits such a contribution, I always check my disc to see if it's correct. And in 99.99% of the cases, it is. If it's not, a polite no-vote to alert the user, followed by a few pm's usually does the trick. I'm quite grateful that some people actually make an effort to improve the database, instead of moaning about it ad infinitum.

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I checked what they had submitted and voted yes.

And that's what you should do anyway. If a user submits such a contribution, I always check my disc to see if it's correct. And in 99.99% of the cases, it is. If it's not, a polite no-vote to alert the user, followed by a few pm's usually does the trick. I'm quite grateful that some people actually make an effort to improve the database, instead of moaning about it ad infinitum.

oh goody the user submits garbage for notes and you check it and vote yes. Guess what marcel, 6 months from now when some user wants to refer to the notes for whatever reason, all he will get to see is garbage notes that tell him NOTHING. He doesn't get to that YOU voted Yes or what if any comment you made on it, ALL there is the garbage noites. This isn't moaning, marcel, this is from a user who really does care about the Community and the quality of the database. Perhaps I am Don Quixote and perhaps i have an Impossible Dream, but i'll tell you what, i'll take my DREAM for this program over the garbage that I see any day of the week.

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Samuel

Since you have decided to insert YOURSELF. The learn  how to read. There is a big difference between the kind of notes being referred to and the notes that I leave when I have to rely on myself for reference.

You wnat to play in big leagues, great, you lurked for awhile, take of the Little League uniform.

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Quoting Graveworm:

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I checked what they had submitted and voted yes.

And that's what you should do anyway. If a user submits such a contribution, I always check my disc to see if it's correct. And in 99.99% of the cases, it is. If it's not, a polite no-vote to alert the user, followed by a few pm's usually does the trick. I'm quite grateful that some people actually make an effort to improve the database, instead of moaning about it ad infinitum.

I'm happy to do that but what if no one does? It goes unchecked? However the reason I posted this was to say that at least to maximise the chance that they do get checked the notes should be less ambiguous.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but Ken's stance on updating cast/crew on titles you did not own was if there was no cast/crew (or extremely basic) present.

Thus, updating the cast/crew of a profile you do not own when it already had seemingly full cast/crew data to make it match another profile is not valid and should be voted down.

The example you cite was but one example given. It wasn't all-inclusive or limited to that one example.

The recap he gave after a few posts:

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To recap:
- We do not (currently) prevent users from contributing or voting on profiles they don't own.
- If you are contributing to a profile that you don't own, our only requirement is that the notes submitted accurately reflect the source of the data, and state the specific profile used as the source.