What makes something a studio?  What makes something a media company?  I tried checking the rules, but nothing is spelled out there that tells you what the differential here is.

This is what I thought was to be entered in those fields:

Studio : the studios/companies that were responsible for the initial theatrical release in your locality & the production studios/companies, in the order they are given in the film credits

Media Company : the company that releases/distributes the DVD, any studio/company responsible for extra content when it's not the same as companies listed in studios, and any other company credited on the package but not the film

So I figured any sort of rights-holding company would be logically listed as Media Company, not Studio.  But I have a couple of Criterion releases up for vote right now that I have gotten some no votes on for putting these rights holding companies in this slot.

The exact wording on the package of one of these is "under exclusive license from Universal Home Video." 

So, in cases like this, where (if at all) do you think the information belongs?  I figured I'd ask around, as these contributions have both yes and no votes, and I still think they belong in that slot, but if anyone doesn't could you tell me why?  At least, in more words than fit in the vote reason slots?

Thanks for all the help!

That would be how I would see it, too.

I don't track rightsholders either, but I'm still very sad to see that the entire concept of "media companies" isn't adressed AT ALL in the rules, making it essentially a "free-for-all" field. This is yet another good example: currently, half of the voters would enter this as a media company, and once accepted, the only thing we can do is lock our data - removing it is virtually impossible, because there's nothing in the rules that prevents it from being entered. Heck, I've seen people enter "Macrovision"...    It's nice that those that post here all agree, but there's still nothing we can do about the other half that does enter them.

Okay, thanks for the replies!  Based on what's said, I've gone ahead and withdrawn those two contributions. 

As T!M said, something addressing this in the rules - just a little note to say, 'hey, what goes here?' would be very nice.

Since we're on the subject of Criterions, does their new(er) Eclipse line count as a media company?  There are some submissions up for profiles in this line and the media companies listed are both Criterion and another entry for Eclipse.  I haven't voted on these yet because I'm a little fuzzy on this media company thing.  Isn't Eclipse simply a branding effort by Criterion?

Another question I have is, if the line of reasoning we're using precludes adding things like Universal Home Video, then wouldn't that make all the media company entries for Janus Films bogus as well?  The situation is exactly the same.  I'm speaking strictly of the Criterions here.

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Since we're on the subject of Criterions, does their new(er) Eclipse line count as a media company?  There are some submissions up for profiles in this line and the media companies listed are both Criterion and another entry for Eclipse.  I haven't voted on these yet because I'm a little fuzzy on this media company thing.  Isn't Eclipse simply a branding effort by Criterion?

Some people want the branding.  Since the rules don't disallow them, I have left them alone.

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Another question I have is, if the line of reasoning we're using precludes adding things like Universal Home Video, then wouldn't that make all the media company entries for Janus Films bogus as well?  The situation is exactly the same.  I'm speaking strictly of the Criterions here.

It depends on the wording in the fine print.  If it says something similar to, "under exclusive license from Universal Home Video," then I would say yes, it is the exact same situation.

I haven't checked the fine print, but all those are licensed from Janus.  We all know that Criterion doesn't hold the rights to anything, it's all licensed out.

It still seems to me like we're just pulling crap out of our butts on this media company stuff.  I don't care enough to change any of it but whatever logic we're using is inconsistent at best.

As I have said for many moths now. I know what Distribution Company is and what they do. I don't know, what Disney DVDor WDSHE(usually anyway) are or Touchstone Home video, nor can I figure out why I care. I can understand perhaps an interest in the Authoring Company which generally speaking is not available, I think TCHE includes a brief ad from the Authoring Comapny. But this other stuff< i don't know what it is, what to call it, or why I'm interested in DisneyDVD, WDSHE and BVHE what does that tell me. I clearly am missing something, it says something to somebody, I guess, but not me.

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